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枫下论坛 /枫下论坛主坛 /工作学习/科技领域杂谈历史区第 6 页 -ROLIA.NET 相约加拿大网上社区

〖精华〗 Don't come to USA before.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.19 12:56 (1455 bytes. #106023)

Even after you get the GC, you still have to stay in US for at least half a year each year, until you get your US citizenship, the process of which can take up to 7 years after your GC approval. -numnum(numnum); 2001.6.19 13:08 (#106032)

So glad to hear from you again. -bloor(不老); 2001.6.19 13:11 (#106035)

need more on working in the US...... -tweety(RedMenace); 2001.6.19 14:07 (513 bytes. #106069)

You will have a year of "practical training" after you get out of the school, during this one year period, you are free to work for anybody. You need to file for H-1B visa in this one year. -numnum(numnum); 2001.6.19 14:13 (#106071)

when they ask 'r u legal to work in the states?' equals to 'r u citizen, GC holder or TN-1 visa holder?' if u need to get H-1, tell them that 'u need H-1 sponsorship.' that's it. -speed(如风); 2001.6.19 15:51 (#106129)

jabber,read this. #105897 -pangpang(babyface); 2001.6.19 15:00 (#106095)

今年的JAVA ONE有啥新花样？ -youngmind(jordan); 2001.6.19 06:47 (#105810)

What's "Java One"? -sailor(Sailor); 2001.6.19 09:32 (#105864)

The biggest and offical conference / business show of Java community -bloor(不老); 2001.6.19 09:34 (#105867)

Thanks! -sailor(Sailor); 2001.6.19 09:52 (#105877)

我不知道C#怎么念？英语和中文一样吗？ -xiaoya(小丫); 2001.6.19 05:09 (#105768)

sharp -doudougao(豆豆); 2001.6.19 05:18 (#105773)

How do you call the key "*" and "#" on the phone? -heater(肠子); 2001.6.19 05:21 (#105775)

'Star' and 'Sharp' ？我也不知道。要不咱们去‘枫下沙龙\English’去问吧。....//C# 的书是说C Sharp的。 -doudougao(豆豆); 2001.6.19 05:40 (#105780)

刚才我试拨17908和17920（国内的IP接入号），选2(English)听里面说‘#’时，不是sharp，我没听清是什么。555..... -doudougao(豆豆); 2001.6.19 05:53 (#105783)

Pound, 英镑. -michaelchu(Acrobat); 2001.6.19 05:54 (#105784)

Sometimes they call # the number key. -hearts(hearts); 2001.6.19 08:28 (#105838)

Maybe 'asterisk/star' and 'pound sign/key'. -doudougao(豆豆); 2001.6.19 06:25 (#105798)

Here the "pound" means British money unit or weight unit? -heater(肠子); 2001.6.19 08:26 (#105837)

I work as a unix engineer for 5 years.Iwant to know what Senior UNIX ADMIN is like in CANADA? Mean, what skills must senior unix administrator have? -dongs88(leo); 2001.6.18 22:31 (#105448)

国内环境是对我们这些搞技术的很糟??? 中国当然有巨大的机会,但对我们大多数"技术"移民来说,那些机会是没有意义的????????????? -guest:guest; 2001.6.16 10:36 (8189 bytes. #103101)

小第初到多伦多，发现这里培训班的项目班还不错，就是太贵了。希望rolia的老大们牺牲点周末时间站出来组织个team，也让我们这些无产阶级们有机会PTPT(project team) -chengduboy(卡卡都); 2001.6.15 19:35 (#102538)

你是来贪心想吃免费餐, 玩弄rolia的侠义老大们. -downtown1(UofT); 2001.6.15 21:17 (#102597)

本来有些热心的大虾们由此打算，但是缺乏明确的思路和合适的人来组织。毕竟不如 FB 活动那么容易啊。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.6.15 22:54 (#102649)

Do you still FB this week? -liding_wang(无坚不摧大砍刀); 2001.6.15 23:03 (#102657)

Don't believe in the name of the projects they said, they will not teach anything useful. -liding_wang(无坚不摧大砍刀); 2001.6.15 22:57 (#102651)

我也在关心一些项目培训班，虽然很多人都说移民技术没问题，只是英语的问题，但我觉得有很多人技术准备并不足，。。有兴趣者请进。 -catchfire(catchfire); 2001.6.27 18:06 (777 bytes. #113637)

是应该进培训班更新一下知识，贴近加拿大市场，这样有利与找工作。改行的人在那么短时间内是学不出来的。 -guest:guest; 2001.6.30 09:53 (#116167)

在国内做项目时前期分析、设计文档做得很差。这方面很多人都欠缺. 有没有哪位义士找一些项目文档给大家参考一下？ -miketany(kat); 2001.6.30 13:19 (#116223)

NORTEL又发赢利警告.第二季度要亏损192亿美元.裁员一万,今年总共达到3万.据说NT的现金只能撑三个季度了. -mao(yangmao); 2001.6.15 12:09 (15 bytes. #102222)

请教as/400,oracle,unix的工作机会 -guest:benwyj; 2001.6.15 04:05 (121 bytes. #101967)

Should be OK. Very few people (including me) can get their hands on AS/400. -dennis2(Dennis); 2001.6.15 14:14 (#102322)

再请教,as/400 方面具体应该准备哪一方面的东东? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 20:39 (322 bytes. #104318)

另请教 -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 20:48 (257 bytes. #104326)

TORONTO -guest:; 2001.6.17 21:22 (#104384)

如果你现在在这儿就好了,我也赚钱$1000 BONUS. -guest:; 2001.6.17 20:51 (#104329)

什么意思? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 20:55 (#104334)

内部推荐,IF YOU HIRED,我有奖金. -guest:; 2001.6.17 21:00 (#104351)

really?如果方便,请回答一下我上面提到的问题?另外,您现在在哪个城市?谢谢! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:09 (#104364)

你英语是甚么程度? -guest:; 2001.6.17 21:21 (#104383)

英语四级不过是十几年以前的事了.现在正在准备雅斯,平时读资料没问题,能听懂一般的技术演讲和移民介绍.上口语班老外也能听懂我的话. -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:30 (#104400)

wow...路漫漫啊……不过只要用功，应该没有问题。 -pazu(InTheSky); 2001.6.17 21:34 (#104408)

谢谢!能否回答我上面提出的问题? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:37 (#104416)

不好意思，不是那口的，呵呵。 -pazu(InTheSky); 2001.6.17 21:39 (#104421)

非常感谢您的热情! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:47 (#104433)

sounds OK, 但不要骂我,你是不是上海人?因有惨痛经历.不得不这样. -guest:; 2001.6.17 21:37 (#104415)

NO,Yantai,Shandong -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:39 (#104423)

Ok! Seven years experience of AS/400, I am looking for a job in Toronto. -sunlighter(sunlighter); 2001.6.17 23:12 (#104555)

J.D.EDWARD, LANSA -guest:; 2001.6.17 21:22 (#104385)

我没有使用这两者的机会,只是下载过一本IBM的关于J.D.EDWARD的red book.RPG编程有无机会? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 21:42 (#104428)

机会应该还是有的。如果会就更多一些。 -guest:; 2001.6.19 15:59 (#106139)

怎么没人理我了? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 22:01 (#104455)

AS/400 的机会没有前几年那么多了。它的市场在慢慢萎缩。但相对别的来说还是不错的，因为竞争少。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.17 22:32 (#104499)

您能具体回答一下我上面提到的三个问题吗?谢谢! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 22:36 (#104502)

你的问题太长了，简单点。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.17 22:39 (#104503)

请教? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.17 22:51 (310 bytes. #104521)

benwyj, 请进。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.18 18:21 (487 bytes. #105258)

非常感谢您的回答!依煊请进>> -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 20:48 (1031 bytes. #105319)

Sorry, 我实在不能帮你拿主意 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.18 21:39 (276 bytes. #105369)

我刚有了女儿,人的精力是有限的,既要学英语,又要提高技术,难哪!我再看看,多听听吧.在次感谢您的无私帮助! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 21:49 (#105389)

yixuan:我有点罗嗦,但期待着您的回答!谢谢! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 01:44 (#104683)

msg for u -mssg(mssg); 2001.6.18 09:01 (307 bytes. #104842)

thank u very much! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 20:50 (#105322)

我对ORACLE的就业市场也感兴趣. -baobeibei(baobaobei); 2001.6.18 01:44 (#104684)

欢迎更多的朋友对我的问题发表见解,谢谢! -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 21:13 (#105349)

stick with UNIX. Your AS/400 and Java are not very strong. -guest:; 2001.6.18 21:33 (#105362)

i know few of java.i know more about unix,c,api,database.is hp/ux+c+db2 good for job hunting?thx. -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 21:39 (#105370)

As far as I know, a lot of DB2 works are done by java under UNIX/Linux. But you can try C+UNIX -guest:; 2001.6.18 22:50 (#105481)

thx. -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 23:36 (#105569)

能否请jabber进一言? -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 22:24 (#105436)

抱歉,看来不是这样着色. -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.18 22:27 (#105443)

To Rolia citizen benwyj -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.19 12:30 (740 bytes. #106003)

Thank you for your help.I'll do my best to improve my English.And I'll work hard on Unix Administrator and Unix+Oracle programming in c,c++,java.I think two ways are better than one. -benwyj(benwyj); 2001.6.19 20:24 (#106325)

JAVA语言将在PC领域“复兴” (zhuan) (posted by why) -birdincage(birdincage); 2001.6.15 00:56 (1896 bytes. #101823)

那只是一厢情愿吧！JAVA早已是昨日黄花。Microsoft .NET的出现对其更是雪上加霜. -oldgun(老枪); 2001.6.15 20:37 (#102581)

到底java的前途会如何？.net的冲击又会有多大?希望论坛上的有识之士多多提供意见.我想有很多人都迫切想了解以利于今后技术方向的把握. -catchfire(catchfire); 2001.6.15 21:35 (#102604)

Microsoft has already controlled the whole PC market, but when things go to the Internet, it's not that easy for Microsoft to expand. -sailor(Sailor); 2001.6.15 21:44 (185 bytes. #102611)

Not really. You have to admit that Windows2000 will be more stable and comfortable and security in 5 years. Do not overlook the ability of Microsoft. -guest:GGG; 2001.6.15 22:22 (#102634)

do you mean windows 2000 is not stable? -guest:; 2001.6.15 22:45 (#102645)

here is the comprehensive comparision .NEt Vs J2EE http://theserverside.com/resources/pdf/J2EE-vs-DotNET.pdf -guest:Net Vs J2ee; 2001.6.16 23:43 (#103709)

2.5 million java developer already, 3 m to 2003???!!! -guest:; 2001.6.16 23:46 (#103713)

有谁知道HP-UX管理员在加拿大找工作的情况怎么样？ -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.14 08:15 (#100902)

Nobody knows? -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.14 21:19 (#101534)

如果你有几年经验，机会大把大把的。可能比不上做SUN的，但找份工作应该没问题。如果是新手，就别想了。做这一行别人特别看重经验。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.14 22:16 (#101580)

3ks. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.15 01:32 (#101866)

What does "3ks" mean? 3,000 years' experience? If so, the name "Pyramid" fits you well. -heater(肠子); 2001.6.15 08:03 (#102034)

He means thanks. Usually people here write "thx", not "3ks" (that's Chinese pronounciation of thanks). -dennis2(Dennis); 2001.6.15 14:17 (#102326)

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! -wendywendy(wind); 2001.6.16 11:08 (#103135)

I think most canadian engineers are old people, because they have up to 40 years of experience. Just do not understand why they need so many years of experience even more than the technology itself existed. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.16 11:08 (#103136)

I thinks it is "3 kisses" -guest:; 2001.6.16 11:04 (#103126)

新手一定找不到工作吗?有没有找到JUNIOR职位的? -guest:阿; 2001.6.15 07:39 (#102026)

who can trust a junior to manage some important system? -sabotage(不会游泳的鱼); 2001.6.15 16:43 (#102437)

hi, sabotage, Nortel will lay off another 10000 people, how is the morale there in Ottawa? Are you Nortel guys in panic right now? -guest:NT; 2001.6.15 18:13 (#102500)

thanks for ur care, not known yet... It is very possible for our group to be trimmed in the next few weeks. everyone here is panic now... -sabotage(不会游泳的鱼); 2001.6.19 22:01 (#106455)

很少。一般这种系统上都跑别的application, 应该是比较critical的，没有经验没人敢信你。一般junior职位有可能公司从operator提升，我们公司就有一个。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.15 18:09 (#102498)

It depaneds on your backgoud. All electronic/mechanical engineers in my company are vrey familiar with Unix and programming. I may pick up it very soon. Actully those engineers don't like to those kinds work. -guest:; 2001.6.15 18:42 (#102510)

没明白你想说什么。我上面的贴子只是说Junior的职位比较少。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.15 18:50 (#102512)

soory! I reply your last post -guest:; 2001.6.15 19:17 (#102529)

那么,这样的程序员找工作怎么样呢? (UNIX/C/C++, ORACLE(PL/SQL, PRO*C, OCI), IPC, MULTITHREADING, NETWORKING(TCP/UDP/SNMP), CORBA, ROGUE WAVE, ...) -renlei(renlei); 2001.6.15 19:25 (#102531)

Sorry, 对程序员我实在不是太了解，不能乱说。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.15 19:44 (#102542)

It sounds Unix Admin chanecs are many. I had Unix API development experience and am also familiar with network protocol. May I try the Unix Admin in Canada? -guest:new immi; 2001.6.15 19:55 (#102547)

UNIX admin has high requirement on communication skills compared with programming. There are opportunities. Start to learn English now. And recommend you to visit www.workapolis.com for job requirement. -linmeimei(林妹妹); 2001.6.15 19:59 (#102550)

其实是新手，英文如果可以交流没什么阻碍，应该也很好找。ADMIN的需求比较稳定，不受大气候影响。只要有一些HANDS…ON经验，就可以了 -numnum(numnum); 2001.6.16 13:00 (#103248)

给大家一个吓唬人的东西，嘿嘿 Page Link -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.13 23:29 (#100556)

I flunked the interview question: "What is Miller-Rabin Test?", can anybody explain to me what the hell it is? I think it's some kind of algorithm to creat prime numbers, but have no idea how to implement it... -henryliu(Shaolin); 2001.6.13 06:09 (#99497)

If you search Internet..... -mssg(mssg); 2001.6.13 10:57 (87 bytes. #99689)

Burlington在什么地方，从多伦多如何乘车到Burlington？今天得到面试的通知，对方发邮件过来。公司位于Burlington地区，我在TTC的地图上怎么找不到这个地方呢？ -guest:fg; 2001.6.12 23:37 (#99201)

TTC Map covers Toronto and area only. Burlington is half way towards Niagara Falls along QEW. -rollor(Rollor); 2001.6.13 00:48 (#99284)

Taking GO BUS to get there is quite convenient. It takes less than 40 min. Go Terminal is located 130 Elizabeth St., downtown. You can find Burlington on this Map. Page Link -turbo(起舞弄清影); 2001.6.13 01:36 (#99296)

找工作面试笔试题交换 -sen_itguy(itguy); 2001.6.12 12:23 (350 bytes. #98676)

要OFFICE XP 的进来 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 10:34 (364 bytes. #97518)

水太大，我往上顶顶 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 11:48 (#97608)

thanks -guest:; 2001.6.11 11:58 (#97613)

How to use these file? -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.11 12:21 (#97636)

how to use? 下载，解压，需要烧碟的烧碟，然后安装 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 12:35 (#97651)

Thanks. got more? -hailstorm(鹏飞北溟); 2001.6.11 12:26 (#97643)

你想要啥？ -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 12:35 (#97652)

Tooooooo huge, it's difficult for my free 3web service. Do you have copy of win2k server now. -guest:; 2001.6.11 13:55 (#97741)

我没有Server，只有Adv. Server。而且我不在多伦多。 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 16:26 (#97866)

又被淹了.我再往上顶一顶 -farmer(农夫); 2001.6.11 15:09 (#97796)

日进斗斤--进来，另外一个下XP的，简/繁/英都有，要是不会用就找找有关RAR和解BIN，ISO的资料。 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.11 16:27 (103 bytes. #97864)

I got it. Thanks a lot. -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.11 16:29 (#97869)

Btw, how to find these in Yahoo. Witch is search key word or by catalog? -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.11 16:33 (#97871)

我往上顶顶 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.11 16:45 (#97876)

硅谷技术移民卷铺盖回家？ -guest:GUEST; 2001.6.11 00:56 (5225 bytes. #97321)

Many people talked about the harsh time for programmers now in the North America. How about doing business of ones own? Is there any hope? I think for people who wants to make money, doing business for oneself is always the better .... -birdincage(birdincage); 2001.6.10 23:29 (60 bytes. #97218)

I feel disappointed that no one showed interest in " doing ones own business" or even had some comments on it, say, it is out-dated, we don't want to earn money, or it has nothing to do with us ordinary employees:-( -birdincage(birdincage); 2001.6.13 01:32 (#99319)

Why does it become yellow? -birdincage(birdincage); 2001.6.13 01:37 (#99324)

So you know who answer you. -hxxhxx(晓晓); 2001.6.13 02:02 (#99344)

I has been to Toronto for 2 months, I will study a master degree of computer system(I majored in Computer and Application in China), but that university is a America registered, but it is not famous,I am not sure I study it or not? Please help me -kevin_xue(emouse); 2001.6.10 00:28 (#96274)

Interview questions from Microsoft:微軟面試要找"比我更聰明的人" -guest:Microsoft; 2001.6.9 14:28 (303 bytes. #95942)

anyone know the answer? -guest:; 2001.6.9 14:29 (#95943)

如文中所载，这类问题的答案并不是绝对唯一标准的，而是考验你是否有创新精神，是否有合作精神 -beware(断线风筝); 2001.6.9 23:15 (#96179)

给个DEMO，圆盖子才不会掉下去:)P其实我一点不看好微软中国研究院，炒作太多，无非是一个博士（后）陈列橱窗。盖茨当年不爱学历爱创新能力，现在是正相反，尤其是在中国。 -mildkiller(温柔杀手); 2001.6.10 11:58 (#96656)

问个老问题，@home的modem在哪里可以买到？我知道如果是在同一个城市，就可以使用。实在不想每个月给它10块钱。一年多就是一个新modem了 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 10:12 (#94668)

@HOME的MODEM要一千多。不申请到Account,连信号都没有 -guest:; 2001.6.8 10:37 (#94703)

我现在用过N家Cable公司，就是@home不卖，我是不想交租金，没说不交服务费。又不是没有买过 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 10:44 (#94707)

谢谢版主，我骂人，我道歉！ -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 11:03 (#94737)

@home 的Cable modem 是不需要付租金的吧？ the first month is free, from the second month , the service fee is about 45$(include tax) -gaga(gaga); 2001.6.8 10:49 (#94715)

我这里要付的，$10/Mo -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 10:50 (#94716)

你在哪里？怎么这么便宜？是不是先要付电视的钱？ -ggsddu(ggsddu); 2001.6.8 11:02 (#94736)

不便宜，一个月全算完要60多。modem rental fee 10, basic cable 10, Internet service 40 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 11:06 (#94742)

他用的不是Rogers@Home -agincourt(百灵鸟); 2001.6.8 10:59 (#94728)

呵呵，还是你清楚。虽然都是@home，但下面的分包公司不一样 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 11:01 (#94733)

我在多伦多，在future shop申请的@home, 则么会不是roger@home呢？ -gaga(gaga); 2001.6.8 12:00 (#94818)

回刚才被删的不雅的贴子：看不顺眼的，就当是个屁－放了；　　海纳百川，有容乃大。　　你一动怒，正中了他的计，呵呵 -agincourt(百灵鸟); 2001.6.8 11:54 (#94806)

呵呵。老哥说的对 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.8 12:03 (#94824)

who work with photoshop? -kitty000(kitty); 2001.6.8 01:45 (#94340)

I... -danny_chen(蛋泥); 2001.6.8 04:13 (85 bytes. #94405)

who know where can i download book about 3D MAX. -kitty000(kitty); 2001.6.8 01:42 (#94338)

thanks first! who know where I can get the book named \"Solaris 7 Administrator Certification Training Guide: Part I and Part II \"? or eho has the book for sale? Thnaks! -guest:guest; 2001.6.7 17:03 (#93713)

If you want to get SCSA, http://docs.sun.com is your friend. I got mine just by reading http://docs.sun.com and various resources on the Internet (e.g., www.cramsession.com). You don't really need that book. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.7 17:26 (#93743)

I have the book and passed the exams in April. -janetchen(janet); 2001.7.3 11:44 (#118093)

drop your mail to me at a12288@canada.com, and by the way, where are you? i could lend you the CD if possible. -songl(风); 2001.7.3 12:52 (#118173)

i have lots of pdf for solaris. i can share with you. just give your email address. -winger(winger); 2001.7.16 15:54 (#133997)

〖精华〗 Evaluation Report of Bob Smith----Not for humor-impaired -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.7 12:05 (1130 bytes. #93393)

nice -bloor(不算太老); 2001.6.7 13:12 (#93458)

Ha Ha. -magnolia(辛夷); 2001.6.7 13:57 (#93526)

poor bob, like me, haha... -bluespirt(聪聪); 2001.6.7 14:14 (#93544)

good job. I am wonder is there any evaluation report of programmer. I am really interesting in the different evaluation between a diligent guy and a loose one like me, the different between a chinese guy and a westerner guy. -guest:wager; 2001.6.7 15:13 (#93608)

哈哈。VERY GOOD。 -rollor(Rollor); 2001.6.7 16:13 (#93659)

It's funny.But I wonder what made Rumba laugh into tears last time?I can not find anything interesting there. -agirl(agirl); 2001.6.7 22:21 (#94046)

Just an addendum. It is not my work. I need a second life to create such a funny composition. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.8 09:37 (#94619)

plz help! Who know the computer bookstore in Toronto? I want to buy several most professional computer books. thanks! -guest:guest; 2001.6.6 21:48 (#92550)

You can download some good IT books in the following website: Page Link -heater(肠子); 2001.6.6 21:52 (#92561)

thanks! but that site doesn't work. other way? thanks a lot. -guest:guest; 2001.6.6 23:38 (#92720)

I can visit this site with ease! What's wrong with it in your position? Tell me what you had seen when you tried to visit the site. BTW, this site must be in China. -heater(肠子); 2001.6.6 23:47 (#92728)

Really thanks! I still got nothing from the site. Last night, I could enter into the site. But now, i even can't enter into it. What's wrong? I'm near Warden. thanks! -guest:guest; 2001.6.7 12:55 (#93442)

去 www.camelot.ca 看看，free shipping by express mail。我买过几次软件，他们的售后服务很好，信誉也不错。 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.7 13:03 (#93446)

Thanks! i phoned, the store is in Montreal. -guest:guest; 2001.6.7 13:27 (#93480)

yep, but you can place the order in their website... -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.7 13:31 (#93490)

There is a computer store at Wellsly (?) and Yonge. The store is about 1 to 2 blocks north of Dundas. It's a pretty small bookstore. But they have complete collections. Or you can go to Chapters or shopping online. -hailstorm(鹏飞北溟); 2001.6.7 13:03 (#93447)

Thanks! more detail about the location? -guest:guest; 2001.6.7 13:28 (#93483)

Univerity of Toronto Bookstore -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.7 13:35 (234 bytes. #93498)

To 依煊 -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 16:39 (765 bytes. #92222)

Dear jabber, I got your image from your all articles. You are a very good and smart woman, but I feel you are too较真儿,死心眼. This is the reason you are success but also for why sometimes you are not happy.learn from 依煊, say what she likes to say -deepblue(deepblue); 2001.6.6 16:45 (#92230)

haha, funny. who told u jabber is woman? -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.6.6 17:01 (#92253)

Thanks for advice. But I am a guy... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 17:05 (#92261)

Oh, my God! -deepblue(deepblue); 2001.6.6 17:17 (#92291)

Haha, jabber, fianally you stand up to clear the rumor.. -ely(Ely); 2001.6.6 20:26 (#92457)

Hi, jabber,无所谓作那么多解释啦,说了就说了,陈述事实而已,别人怎么评述不用太在乎,好比yellow兄贴出他的日记,也是如实纪录心路历程,虽招致一大堆议论,他也没有一一解释,算了......:-) -dust(尘埃); 2001.6.6 16:50 (#92240)

I am a moderator... so I am multi-threading ... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 17:07 (#92266)

Hi, Man. I found the author should be a woman, at least act as a woman in a book -farmer(农夫); 2001.6.6 17:31 (#92331)

给jabber的回贴 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.6 20:16 (696 bytes. #92443)

佩服！ -yellow(yellow); 2001.6.6 21:05 (#92497)

服就服好了嘛……干嘛要先pei一下？！ -pazu(InTheSky); 2001.6.6 21:09 (#92502)

哪有呸？ -yellow(yellow); 2001.6.6 22:31 (#92626)

哪有？呸！ -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.6 22:38 (#92635)

妙！ -danielli(热干面); 2001.6.7 01:06 (#92807)

中文的博大精深这里就表现出来了 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.7 01:09 (#92815)

依煊,您的涵养可不如您的名字美丽。Jabber的好意被您当城嘲笑的逍遥。您不爱看英文帖子，干吗首先会他的帖子？I don't see any other meaning by saying "he is not good at communicating", nor did I see any offensive expression or showing-off. -guest:; 2001.6.6 22:41 (#92642)

真好,就像小时候的一样 -farmer(农夫); 2001.6.7 09:01 (#93116)

现实是严酷的，即使JABBER别人也回拒绝不能沟通的申请人，我们新移民就承认自己的不足吧，出来咋到受委屈是正常的，关键不气磊。 -youngmind(jordan); 2001.6.13 02:04 (#99347)

希望互相尊重对方：如果讨论的是严肃话题。开善意的的玩笑，如果有人让我们不高兴。站在别人的角度考虑问题，原谅别人的过失。 -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.6 21:40 (#92530)

〖精华〗 To 飞翔的鱼 -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 13:12 (821 bytes. #92014)

not be too serious. Most friends know you are warm-hearted guy. Of course, we have to fit to job hunting style. Chating is another story. don't exit. -guest:new immi; 2001.6.6 13:52 (#92056)

给您的回复 -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.6 14:36 (838 bytes. #92112)

哈哈，同意！ -yellow(yellow); 2001.6.6 14:50 (#92125)

Among others, you are not at fault and you don't need apologize -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 16:22 (3677 bytes. #92204)

理解 -foureyecatcat(飞翔的鱼); 2001.6.6 17:27 (#92320)

看了两位的对答，觉得两位都挺不错的，感触也挺多，不过没时间灌水。。。 -danielli(热干面); 2001.6.7 01:25 (#92825)

好兄弟，别说了，我知道大家都不容易。 -rumba(rumba); 2001.6.6 19:30 (269 bytes. #92420)

I could not help following your posting -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 21:47 (495 bytes. #92545)

I felt Jabber's character is just like my old father so sometimes I could understand. My father is very diligent, serious, talented but sort of uneased. -ely(Ely); 2001.6.6 21:54 (#92564)

Sounds like your father is a PH.D. too. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001.6.6 22:17 (#92605)

It doesn't matter.I mean the character. Even the favor of teaching and sharing as well as the pride of doing that. and as I said, the sense of burden -ely(Ely); 2001.6.6 22:24 (#92615)

You are a nice guy but you must be careful when you post something like "I failed two job cadidates today". -coolguy(coolguy); 2001.6.7 10:17 (323 bytes. #93211)

Among all the postings that follow my original one, yours is thoughtful. I thank you sincerely for your comments. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.7 11:09 (#93285)

对待新移民象春天般的温暖；对待ROLIA网友象夏天般的火热；对待国内准移民的某些幻想象秋风扫落叶一般；对待不合格的CANDIDATE象冬天般的冷酷无情。 —— 摘自《Jabber日记》 -heater(肠子); 2001.6.6 20:11 (#92437)

不许搞笑，呵呵。 -pandora(Sarah); 2001.6.6 20:14 (#92440)

Why not? I just opened a Pandora's box . -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 21:33 (#92521)

恩？我……害怕。 -pandora(Sarah); 2001.6.6 21:59 (#92574)

三个月以前你是被当作秋天对待的；现在你是被当作夏天对待的；过一段时间你就会被当做春天对待，因为你登陆了；最后在你找到工作之前你是被当作冬天对待的。需要心理素质：) -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.6 21:59 (#92573)

忽冷忽热爱感冒，还需要身体素质。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.6 22:31 (#92627)

从今儿起，临睡前喝的牛奶由一杯改为二杯，以便增肥。 -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.6 22:37 (#92633)

小心尿炕。 -heater(肠子); 2001.6.6 22:49 (#92653)

还可以洗肠子：} -danielli(热干面); 2001.6.7 01:22 (#92821)

画大大大地图了了不得 -guest:buddy; 2001.6.7 10:39 (#93241)

I have no choice because it is most happy times now. After landing I believe it will be really winter soon. If we don't exercise ourself like bingle said, who know what will happened. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.7 11:05 (#93282)

〖精华〗 Are you over-qualified for this position -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 12:45 (783 bytes. #91975)

I guess he still has two options: -guest:Guest; 2001.6.6 13:49 (426 bytes. #92052)

How can that happen ? Coz , if one guy ,once , was overqualified , it's not his fault , right ? It is his/her former boss who overqualified him/her . He shouldn't take the panety . -acezl(acezl); 2001.6.8 02:17 (#94357)

〖精华〗 We have hired a lead developer (team leader). -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:42 (1241 bytes. #91836)

What's "Java Web Start" ?? -acezl(acezl); 2001.6.8 02:20 (#94359)

A new tech from Sun. You can find it at Javasoft's web site -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.8 09:23 (#94599)

Need your help:How can I find a suitable job for me -eagle_no1(eagle_No1); 2001.6.6 00:48 (787 bytes. #91426)

It depends on your english if you still want to be project leader. you may try senior developer. but it's hard to say this year due to Nortel, Lucent, CISCO lay-off. -guest:professioanl; 2001.6.6 01:04 (#91440)

Thank you very much! If I apply for programer or advance programer, what I should improve in the this field in my condition. -eagle_no1(eagle_No1); 2001.6.6 21:08 (#92500)

程序员＝BAD LABOR！！！ -guest:computer; 2001.6.6 00:31 (350 bytes. #91395)

CMM, VB,Delphi,C#,Java turns programmer into labour -blaise(blaise); 2001.6.6 18:25 (907 bytes. #92398)

I can't agree with you any more!! -guest:guest; 2001.6.6 18:47 (#92413)

please visit India IT manufacture factories. One friend told that a IT company(pure software) has 6000 programmers and 300 manager and 300 team leader/Architect,programmers work in 3 shifts. a copy of movie "Modern Time" -guest:old gun; 2001.6.6 18:47 (#92414)

〖精华〗 I failed two job candidates today -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.5 21:54 (740 bytes. #91144)

You are real bull, NB, post your daily work report here, hehe... -bluespirt(聪聪); 2001.6.5 22:09 (#91179)

同胞也给费了？没给多点机会么？ -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.5 22:13 (#91186)

我看你的英文也就那么回事。不好意思，得罪了，我说实话。 -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.5 22:17 (#91193)

哈哈，同意！做到能废人的职位是挺值得自豪的，不过废人本身这件事真的没什么好说的，想想谁当初不是经过被人废这一步走过来的呢，那俩人一个学历那么高，一个经验那么多，心里定不好过 -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.5 22:23 (#91205)

做到那职位又怎么样呢？ -yixuan(依煊); 2001.6.5 22:34 (#91232)

我倒不觉得。我看jabber的本意是说大家要端正态度。如果都象第二个guy那样，到哪儿不都得被废？ -heater(肠子); 2001.6.5 22:42 (#91251)

握手，jabber的本意明眼人一看便知，找工的人应该从中吸取教训。我很喜欢jabber的文章，倒是有些人不知什么心理作怪。 -guest:; 2001.6.5 22:52 (#91269)

呵呵，有句老话：看不得穷人吃肉。:D -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.5 22:55 (#91275)

没人说他的文章没用，他的态度，嘿嘿。。。。。 -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.5 23:01 (#91283)

You have understood me. I just want to explain two points... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 09:54 (1121 bytes. #91782)

Jabber did make the points. As a previous manager, unemployed now..:P, I would say attitude, personality, professionalism are much more important than your technical skill sets. -speed(如风); 2001.6.6 10:09 (#91794)

btw, r u involved in jabber IM? or u just love jabber IM? -speed(如风); 2001.6.6 10:10 (#91797)

What does IM mean? -guest:; 2001.6.12 22:54 (#99131)

From the question you asked I know that you are not a guy from Computer Science. And you question does offend, especially those with 20 years experience. -guest:guest; 2001.6.6 11:14 (519 bytes. #91882)

Thank you for your comments. Presumably, you are very good.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 12:22 (929 bytes. #91957)

INTERVER有权力问任何问题，但不能保证这些问题都是合理和恰当的，不合格的INTERVER 和不合格的INTERVEE一样多，只是INTERVEE更处在被动的地位；好的INTERVER绝不是发现一个不合格的INTERVEE，而是发现一个潜在的合格的INTERVEE，这对两者都是很重要的。。 -fxid(枫下客); 2001.6.6 13:18 (#92020)

You made the point. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 16:44 (#92227)

I think it can't be over-emphasized how important it is for an interviewee to have enthusiasm towards the position he is applying for.... -guest:Guest; 2001.6.6 14:11 (1055 bytes. #92072)

agree, in my interview 2y ago i showed both (really!) and i got the offer -guest:; 2001.6.6 16:49 (1207 bytes. #92238)

1. Normally a CS guy can code, so don't question their capabilities on coding or sort of detail, even they don't yet know a specific language at interview time. -guest:guest; 2001.6.6 14:29 (330 bytes. #92100)

How high is your position? :-):-) -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:08 (331 bytes. #91795)

Jabber seems not a rational person. It's pretty dangerous to put such person in a kind of management position. The perfect engineer is only existing in his imagine. Think about Jabber himself, does he have 10 years programming experience? -guest:; 2001.6.6 14:21 (#92086)

Agree with you, I think his skill is even worse, kind of superficialness, Just think about it, he is not a master in MS technology(he mentoined this half a year ago),as a contractor, -uid(miracle); 2001.6.6 22:35 (401 bytes. #92629)

If you don't mind, can you please tell us what kind of opening it is? -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.5 22:18 (#91194)

Hei, man, the EE PH.D you fail can find a job much better than you very qucikly, do you agree? I am strange that he go to find a job of Java programmer. -rumba(rumba); 2001.6.5 22:26 (#91215)

哈哈哈哈~~~~爽！ -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.5 22:28 (#91217)

做事有可为有不可为，申请职位一样，一个职位数十人中只能有一个人最合适，JABBER 将其中的不合适者及原因分析POST出来，对大家只有好处 -guest:; 2001.6.6 02:57 (#91552)

我知错了 -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.6 03:08 (#91561)

Jabber，你能否多收集一些别人的废人和被废的经历，以食读者。 -heater(肠子); 2001.6.5 22:55 (#91274)

Don't .......以食读者! Horrible! -guest:guest; 2001.6.5 22:57 (#91278)

按照作者名Jabber搜索，你会发现Jabber非常多的小文章，对于IT技术、IT找工作、英语学习非常有用。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.5 23:04 (#91285)

违反职业道德。那些简历是应该存档或销毁的。 -rollor(Rollor); 2001.6.6 09:25 (#91737)

I have ever had a fiasco (a big failure, or a waterloo) two years ago... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:02 (234 bytes. #91789)

I don't understand what you want to say. -alice366(webgirl); 2001.6.6 11:45 (#91918)

I don't think you hold any hatred against out countrymen -youngmind(jordan); 2001.6.13 02:29 (#99369)

职业技能与就业机会看来真不是线性函数啊。jabber是我在ROLIA上最敬佩的人士，他将他的经验及经历与我们分享，这真是令人敬佩，不是一些所谓网友所比的啊。 -huofu(huofu); 2001.6.5 23:05 (#91289)

哈哈，jabber的pp上都是你的大手印了~~~ -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001.6.5 23:07 (#91296)

啪！啪！俺也来拍几下。将来Jabber废俺的时候，也好考虑考虑今天这几下。 -heater(肠子); 2001.6.6 00:25 (#91381)

我也来给含冤受屈的jabber同志平反 -bubble(bubble); 2001.6.6 00:32 (#91399)

I'm VERY sorry. 误用“同志”，措辞不当。这回不小心拍到马腿上了，不好意思 -bubble(bubble); 2001.6.6 00:35 (#91405)

You have tapped on the horse heels....: Haha -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:11 (#91798)

Look,that' the reason those "real technology specialist" dare not post their articles.The post is misunderstood because of some readers' tough career.So Jabber is a brave man.Show my respect to him. -agirl(agirl); 2001.6.6 01:31 (#91468)

真是大快人心。我一直以为坛子里的各位都是被废的主(包括我自己)，没想到也有废别人的主，太好了！看来华人在加混的还不错。 -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.6 01:50 (#91490)

首先人家在美国，第二点是个女生。 -pangpang(babyface); 2001.6.6 09:25 (#91738)

You did well! Otherwise, he will waste time and be buried by sand in e-commerce. He should be scientist in Ball Lab or researcher in Nortel. or junior Architect in small Telecom company -guest:new immi; 2001.6.6 02:07 (#91506)

I completely understand your point. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:18 (223 bytes. #91802)

If I were boss, I couldn't hire him. That's overqualified. Match, please remember -guest:old Yimin; 2001.6.6 10:31 (#91821)

阿毛阿狗，几乎所有找不到工作的人都 in e-coomerce field。 It is unblievable for a EE PhD to apply Java position. -guest:EE; 2001.6.6 02:14 (#91512)

It is not an anomaly for a Ph. D to be programmer. Some of them are good programmers, some are poor. Please do not evaluate people simply on the basis of their education, dipoma, degrees... -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:20 (#91804)

Common guys! Why not trying to learn something from it instead of being a sour grape...grow up and be mature. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.6 02:17 (#91516)

明摆是给各位提供interview的经验！而且是应前面帖子要求的！！！！ -guest:！！！！; 2001.6.6 02:32 (#91531)

PhD in EE from the States failed for Java programming?? It's good news. He shoudl find one position matched his major. -coolguy(coolguy); 2001.6.6 10:13 (#91799)

EE is no longer hot in USA. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 10:43 (#91839)

Really? As far as I know, Lucent and Nortel, etc still hire hardware engineers in recent days. Honestly all of my classmates are not laid off once until right now. Even for all og my previous co-workers!! Get a life, man!! -coolguy(coolguy); 2001.6.6 11:00 (#91858)

How about firmware prospect? -guest:new immi; 2001.6.6 11:05 (#91866)

Firmware is good too! -coolguy(coolguy); 2001.6.6 11:25 (1126 bytes. #91888)

exactly! as long as I insist on for a while, finally I may come into a good field. so called Computer is flooding as EE said "阿毛阿狗，几乎所有找不到工作的人都 in e-coomerce field" -guest:new immi; 2001.6.6 11:43 (#91914)

Hahaha, jabber, you are really humor!!! I almost laugh to tear. -rumba(rumba); 2001.6.6 12:45 (#91976)

YOU GOT IT! -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 17:02 (#92254)

不知道是我小心眼还是怎么（但是我自己不这么认为），读了jabber这篇文章，我也觉得他有点在摆。或许他用英语没有表达清楚，还是根本没有考虑别人的感受。 -yellow(yellow); 2001.6.6 13:22 (#92024)

I think I have conveyed my ideas clearly. :-)-:) -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 17:01 (181 bytes. #92252)

不是你小心眼. 我觉得JABBER实际上是自视甚高的., 偶尔言语中就会给人一点"摆"的感觉. 很多出色的人都会有一点. 他们自己通常感觉不到. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001.6.6 22:13 (#92599)

ones have different styles and criteria while considering a candidate, but I don't agree with Jabber's "I suggested my CTO not consider him any more." I felt jabber might have allowed his personal feeling to influence his decision in this case. -ely(Ely); 2001.6.6 13:39 (#92042)

Miss Ely, I am scared by your criticisms. :-) :-) -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.6 16:54 (#92242)

Ah-eh, am I that scary? BTW, I found it is much more difficult driving on the road of IT than what I expected one year ago. It's so bumping and what is worse, I'm on the half way.. -ely(Ely); 2001.6.6 20:00 (#92430)

you'd better not to expect that a firendly interviwer will interview you.jabber is the one of them.behave confident and prepare carefully,ok? -youngmind(jordan); 2001.6.13 02:40 (#99377)

程序员的进化-初级 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.5 06:28 (27 bytes. #90528)

程序员的进化-中级 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.5 06:29 (115 bytes. #90529)

delicious!!! -zyzz_88(小昭); 2001.6.5 08:02 (#90542)

It's my level. -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.5 14:27 (#90847)

程序员的进化-高级 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.5 06:31 (3722 bytes. #90530)

程序员的进化-大师级 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.5 06:31 (27 bytes. #90531)

why,so short? -cctvtom(浪翻云); 2001.6.5 12:52 (#90781)

because it's Bill gates. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.6.5 14:47 (#90856)

far out -hailstorm(鹏飞北溟); 2001.6.5 14:19 (#90844)

Very good artical! -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.5 08:07 (#90544)

rolia的水真大，一会功夫就给冲的无影无踪。好半天才捞回来。。。 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.5 12:21 (#90766)

〖精华〗再提一个在加找工作的问题：网络安全方面(如Firewall等) 前景如何？对English 要求怎样？如今Programmer太多，Cisco方面的机会似乎多数人不看好，希望Jabber,火姐等等前辈多多指教。 -visa001(visa001); 2001.6.5 02:42 (#90418)

网络安全的前景应该不错, 看看前一阵的中美黑客战就知道现在的网络安全性有多差了. 可是现在这年月, 什么都不景气, 谁知道呢. 如果你对网络安全感兴趣, 我倒有些建议 -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.5 18:29 (2037 bytes. #90948)

太有用了。多谢多谢。 -guest:maomao; 2001.6.5 18:39 (#90955)

可惜书基本上很难买，有地方下载电子版吗 -gillgill(巧克力); 2001.6.7 04:59 (#92969)

你看这个站点能不能上去。前面有人说上不去？！ Page Link -heater(肠子); 2001.6.7 05:03 (#92975)

Handbook of Information Security Management Page Link -shu(shu); 2002.4.21 16:40 (#472710)

该贴也值得进FAQ. -heater(肠子); 2001.6.5 20:30 (#91018)

难道你真是封了Rolia的人？ -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.7 04:18 (#92924)

I am happy to have seen another guy who has a clear-cut picture of his working field. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.5 21:40 (#91125)

Thank you ! You had answered my further questions. BTW, what is your web site? Maybe we could discuss something. -visa001(visa001); 2001.6.5 23:07 (#91293)

Sorry, I don't have one yet :-) But I promise I'll put up one. What further questions I answered? I thought I forgot to answer one of your questions, that is English... -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.6 03:18 (1611 bytes. #91575)

Oh, sure we can discuss things. I like discussing technical stuff. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.6 03:22 (#91578)

Dennis! palease give a hand. Do you have any idea on this? -guest:TCP/IP novice; 2001.6.5 23:32 (586 bytes. #91329)

你是这里真正的高手！如此清晰的条理，确实适合做安全分析。不过网络安全还有开发的一方面，例如PKI工程师。不知道你是不是也穿黑西服戴墨镜？ -mildkiller(温柔杀手); 2001.6.6 22:01 (#92581)

As I said in a previous post, I am no expert. Just so you know, I'm not even CS major. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.7 02:53 (382 bytes. #92861)

PKI:Public Key Infrastructure。网络安全一般包括安全管理/审核和开发，例如PDA,VPN Box,Firewall等产品的R&D，更理论的就是加密算法和结构模式的研究了。 -mildkiller(温柔杀手); 2001.6.7 22:51 (#94125)

Thanks mildkiller. I know what PKI is, I just never heard of PKI engineer. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.8 13:13 (226 bytes. #94905)

我查了以下贴发现了这篇不知这位大虾是否已经整理好小弟正在被赶鸭子上架作SSL方面的programming -pain4happiness(wolf); 2002.4.20 22:43 (101 bytes. #471705)

PGP 有open的source code吗？ -smile_tree(XO级水瓶); 2002.4.21 12:52 (#472480)

当然有了，PGP从一开始就是Open Source的 Page Link -dennis2(Dennis); 2002.4.21 13:35 (#472525)

Whatever field you are in, you can get a job if 1) Your skill set is comprehensive; 2) Your communication (including English) is good. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.5 21:35 (#91120)

Indeed. I'd add another one: 3) Good Atitude, always willing to learn and feel happy about it. -dennis2(dennis2); 2001.6.6 01:37 (#91475)

还用说么,没看到现在招人都招不到么,给多少钱都招不到人,只不过学的时候东西多一些. -f16(F16); 2002.4.20 23:46 (#471883)

I am very glad that someone is interested in this area. I am planning to take CISSP test by the end of the year. Maybe we can form a study group and learn all these things together. -shu(shu); 2002.4.21 10:38 (#472377)

that is a long way to go, good luck -avacao(吃草的大老虎白白胖胖); 2002.4.21 13:48 (#472534)

Thanks. But I have to get it, although it's hard. -shu(shu); 2002.4.21 16:39 (#472709)

大家好，小妹christy这厢有礼啦！准备immigrate to Canada,想了解一下取得Cisco认证的，在加拿大的工作情况，salary大概是多少？好找工作吗？望各位前辈不吝赐教！^_^ -christy(christy); 2001.6.4 12:54 (#89653)

向后搜索，一大把大把的。 -cctvtom(浪翻云); 2001.6.4 13:05 (#89666)

你不是成心在这里气人的吧？ -guest:; 2001.6.4 13:08 (#89669)

呵呵，我确实不知道，不过后面的类很多，我谁没正面回答，但不也是起到翻贴作用了么：），要不然，她一会就被淹没到后边了。 -cctvtom(浪翻云); 2001.6.4 13:14 (#89677)

因为你没有表明身份，所以没有人回答你呀~：） -32b6566(土拨鼠); 2001.6.4 13:11 (#89672)

表明什么身份啊？回答问题还要验明正身的吗? -christy(christy); 2001.6.5 05:16 (#90502)

是呀，比如说：已婚MM就不如未婚MM的回贴率高；PP未婚MM的回贴率最高啦~~~~哈哈哈~~~~~~ -32b6566(土拨鼠); 2001.6.5 05:21 (#90505)

哦，原来如此…… 我是PP未婚MM哦，可是已经有BF了，这样的身份回帖率如何啊？^_^ -christy(christy); 2001.6.5 09:01 (#90562)

Nil -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.6.5 09:03 (#90564)

big zilch. hehe. but i remember whitetiger has CISCO certificate. -mrviceroy(杀人者Daniel是也); 2001.6.5 09:36 (#90591)

基本和已婚PPMM一般对待：） -32b6566(土拨鼠); 2001.6.5 10:03 (#90627)

It will be another MCSE now. Many CISCO's customs bankrupcy. On the other hand, more and more those certificates' guys were being produced. MaoKen have been occupied by us. practising R&D GongFu is stupid but essential way. Here is not MaiBan economy. -guest:old Yimi; 2001.6.5 10:53 (#90691)

"@"这个符号在英语里该如何读？谢谢。 -guest:123; 2001.6.4 01:07 (#89300)

唉塔 -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.4 01:09 (#89307)

"#"如何念？Punc? -aha(Aha); 2001.6.4 01:22 (#89318)

sharp -guest:; 2001.6.4 01:32 (#89324)

Pound. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.4 03:21 (#89383)

should be spoken " at " -enternet(Enternet); 2001.6.4 01:29 (#89322)

"at" -hailstorm(鹏飞北溟); 2001.6.4 01:30 (#89323)

应该是权威答案：我公司的同事都读“At Sign”。 -danny_chen(蛋泥); 2001.6.4 01:43 (#89329)

我是读at,可是在和台湾人打交道时，他（她）们称之为”小老鼠“。 -susse(逃半仙); 2001.6.4 02:49 (#89363)

哈哈! 刚开始跟台湾"男生"打电话, 实在是很难适应他们过分Cute的腔调，他们的年龄更是很难从声音分辨。。:D -pingle(pingle); 2001.6.4 02:54 (#89365)

If you read a email address, just read "at". If you only need @, then you call it at sign. Sign is symbol. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001.6.4 03:23 (#89384)

和at相同，中央台的国嘴都这样读，不过他们还喜欢读“点卡奥亩”，我不建议你学习 -god(God); 2001.6.4 04:28 (#89409)

〖精华〗程序员应具备的素质－拨乱反正篇(转贴自心意网) -pingle(pingle); 2001.6.3 23:41 (14486 bytes. #89223)

True. Software Engineering is extremely important. But people always neglect it. Coding is only 50% for a programmer. -hailstorm(鹏飞北溟); 2001.6.4 00:00 (#89244)

好文！我想此文对准备面食的CP同仁一定也同样有帮助. -doudougao(豆豆); 2001.6.4 00:04 (#89250)

的确好文！ -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.4 00:07 (#89253)

在洋人的社会了只要你会写CODE就行了，知道的多也没有机会让你用！ -guest:瞎操心; 2001.6.4 00:08 (#89254)

这是增长自己的水平，行行出状元，怎么能这么说 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.4 00:12 (#89257)

TOTALLY WRONG! 写代码的人是否参与设计，和身在什么国家没有任何关系，而和公司的开发模式有关系。只有一些大公司喜欢把设计和写代码的人完全分开，设计的人绝不写代码，写代码的人从不设计。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.6.4 00:25 (#89270)

这里搞ARCHITECTURE的多数是洋人，PROGRAMMER多数是中印。 -guest:; 2001.6.4 00:27 (#89272)

所谓加拿大经验有一条就是知道对方要的人的标准往里套，不是无限吹一些和你POSITION无关的东西，哪怕你的水平确实高！这事我最近面试的经验！ -guest:; 2001.6.4 00:36 (#89278)

无限吹 ... 太狠了！：） -maladuona(马拉多纳); 2001.6.4 00:38 (#89279)

你能理解什么叫TEAMWORK吗？ -guest:; 2001.6.4 00:39 (#89280)

别以为洋人都很公平，NICE，他们也怕你端了他的饭碗。 -guest:; 2001.6.4 00:41 (#89283)

不对，还是跟在什么公司有关。 -guest:; 2001.6.4 00:33 (#89275)

国外的项目就是这样，programmer=coder，也就是搬运工，蓝领。现在的软件开发已经是按照工程学来进行了。 -why(why); 2001.6.4 00:51 (#89290)

Absolutely a good article! Based upon my undertstanding of this article, I decide to shut up. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.4 09:07 (#89480)

小孩子不懂事，别和他们一般见识！ -guest:; 2001.6.4 09:28 (#89494)

Actually, I appreciate 90% of the points in that article. The words in that article sound harsh, but they are to the point. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.4 12:20 (#89621)

:)Jabber is so proud,he says he himself is a "real technology specialist". Anyway, please keep jabbering. -agirl(agirl); 2001.6.5 03:52 (#90452)

Really? It seems I have never said that... You put a wrong hat on my head, but I like it. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.9 12:02 (#95876)

I feel so sorry to disturb you,it's only a joke.(I said that according to the last paragraph of this article.)I have learnt a lot from you. -agirl(agirl); 2001.6.10 20:16 (#97029)

A very good summary! Thanks for the posting! -guest:10 Yr Programmer; 2001.6.4 13:43 (713 bytes. #89703)

Thanks a lot, absolutely helpful for every Chinese IT guy. -guest:; 2001.6.9 12:24 (#95893)

文章不错, 但也只是谈了一些基本的常识. -guest:; 2001.6.9 16:12 (#95977)

文章很好，但说的是谁都明白的大道理，万丈高楼从地起，对刚转行的朋友来说。好想要求太高了。没有几年经验的人看soft engeering, design patterns好想是不如看master *** in 30 days. -guest:初学者; 2001.6.13 21:10 (#100405)

Absolutely a good article! For beginners, this is the right way to go. I suggest everyone who wants to be successful in software industry to print out a copy of this article and put it beside pillow. -turbo(起舞弄清影); 2001.6.14 00:54 (#100710)

新域名注册混乱域名代理商混水摸鱼 -heian(黑暗天使); 2001.6.3 19:45 (3001 bytes. #89009)

On Workoplis.com Today's Job Population is 27,510. BUT ***2000.Apr. is 31000*** 2001.Jan. is 48000***. How about 2001. Dec, my friends? -howdy(Howdy); 2001.6.2 13:12 (#88257)

IBM AIX V4.3 System Administration Certification Material -- is there anyone have them, can we share? -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.5.31 11:37 (139 bytes. #86374)

redbook is enough. I passed the test in 15 days starting from an idiot of unix. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 11:49 (#86385)

What kind of certification did you just get? -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.5.31 11:59 (318 bytes. #86399)

If you have that money and tiime, you can take the course. For me, I didn't. It was 2 years ago I took the test, I couldn't recall those questions. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 14:14 (#86542)

Things do changed. 2 years is a long time for IT. Yahoo and Hotmail successed within months. -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.5.31 15:25 (392 bytes. #86597)

Can you tell us detail, egg? -eluo(窦娥); 2001.5.31 14:00 (#86522)

IBM Certified Specialist - AIX System Admin. Just read the redbook and do some experiments. Read it thoroughly. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 14:12 (#86541)

I'd like to take this test next month. I have over 4 years Unix experience including 1 year's AIX. Any suggestions? -chengyu(Chuan); 2001.5.31 14:15 (#86543)

Read that redbook thoroughly, take some note, review it 2-3 times. I'm not sure if the questions have been changed or not since 2 years ago. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 14:46 (#86567)

I think it's necessary to reinstall the whole system 4-5 times, you'll get more. this is what I did. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 14:48 (#86570)

Thanks egg. I installed AIX 4.3 quite a lot times last year. -chengyu(Chuan); 2001.5.31 14:56 (#86576)

Can I ask which test u are going to take? Test 160, 181, 183,184,185,186,189 or others. -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.5.31 15:29 (#86600)

181. At that time, I had no enough time for 189, though I intended to take it. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 15:42 (#86605)

hi egg.I'm in toronto now. -feather(feather); 2001.5.31 15:43 (#86606)

And u, chengyu, what is your test No. -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.5.31 15:51 (#86608)

181 -chengyu(Chuan); 2001.6.1 10:53 (#87397)

what is redbook? -guest:gg; 2001.5.31 18:40 (#86724)

go to http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/booklist.html -unix_learner(unix_learner); 2001.6.1 10:34 (#87379)

除了java，还可以学点什么？ -kele2000(可乐); 2001.5.31 01:11 (24 bytes. #85930)

C/C++, Unix, DB, and.....English -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.31 10:08 (#86268)

and cooking -pazu(InTheSky); 2001.5.31 10:09 (#86271)

Don't forget Microsoft: C# -bloor(不算太老); 2001.5.31 10:11 (#86273)

WAP is a good field, too. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.31 13:20 (#86474)

How about XML? -beyondeast(east); 2001.6.1 00:18 (305 bytes. #87034)

EJB and XML and servlet/JSP were hot last year. Java market is very cold now, so many people with these skills are finding jobs. -eglington(eglington); 2001.6.1 01:00 (#87093)

Egg, I disagree you. Java is not cold now. Its present market should be termed as "normal". NO technology should be as hot as Java was half years ago. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.1 10:26 (#87370)

how to find what need learn and what need not learn and then what you must learn and then you know, what you must not learn, and then you get your end of life, you are too old to die....that all for today, L and G, Thank you -god(God); 2001.6.1 01:18 (#87115)

Next wave will start with XML. Keep an eye on it -tweety(RedMenace); 2001.6.1 09:45 (#87343)

XML must be based on some lanaguges such as Java, C++, Python, Perl. -jabber(jabber); 2001.6.1 10:23 (1075 bytes. #87368)

Never stop learning in IT -tweety(RedMenace); 2001.6.1 10:40 (640 bytes. #87381)

agree -danieldu(天马行空); 2001.6.1 10:43 (#87386)

学你爱的, 不会两天就后悔的 -god(God); 2001.6.5 12:17 (#90762)

〖精华〗 Some Java interview questions -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.29 16:43 (982 bytes. #84271)

Are you sure the interviewer will ask such java design pattern question?? If yes , that would be so terrible . -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.30 01:38 (#84651)

I am using these questions to phone screen candidates. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.30 13:13 (326 bytes. #85097)

My 2 cents here: LDAP is hierachical, non relational, the advantage is performance for reading... -redplanet(March the 1st); 2001.11.10 15:51 (#256932)

help:我五日到vancouver登陆，想先到个小镇待三个月。请各位高人指点指点。那个地方较好，最好在O省，将来换地方方便. -chengduboy(卡卡都); 2001.5.28 23:00 (#83401)

请问微软公司的mcse,mcdba,和思科公司的ccna,在加拿大找工作是否好用？思科公司的ccnp,呢？还有分布式网络布线工程师amp呢？听说在国内考的计算机国际认证的证书在加拿大不承认是吗？ -iwannafly(我想飞); 2001.5.28 09:19 (#83027)

发过一遍的帖子，你自己跟一个就会升到顶部，不用重新发贴 -guest:; 2001.5.28 09:24 (#83030)

help help i really confused vancouver, toronto, calgary,montrel. which city i should to go? -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.28 00:17 (513 bytes. #82807)

I'm in Toronto now, this is my answer. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.28 00:18 (#82809)

请教一个初级问题，C#英语是怎么读的？ -guest:; 2001.5.27 01:46 (#82077)

西傻扑 -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.27 02:04 (#82102)

c sharp -maladuona(马拉多纳); 2001.5.27 03:03 (#82139)

C Sharp. -hairless(亮晶晶); 2001.5.27 04:01 (#82146)

急问哪个域名注册站点比较好用, 服务好, 所有功能都可以网上操作 , 并可以用信用卡付账 (仅注册,不租虚机)???!!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.26 23:47 (#81953)

兄弟正要请朋友做REFERENCE，他的英语不好，有没有人能教俺几句常用的词句！ -guest:急急; 2001.5.26 20:43 (#81789)

现在离OFFER就差一步了！ -guest:; 2001.5.26 20:54 (#81798)

没人知道吗？ -guest:救命！; 2001.5.26 22:34 (#81884)

I don't have any experience on this. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.26 22:41 (#81891)

这里对reference人的调查主要是打电话，问几个简单的问题，主要的问题如：他的主要缺点是什么？使用他的理由是什么？ -guest:question; 2001.5.26 23:15 (#81928)

谢谢！教几个“优点”吧！ -guest:; 2001.5.26 23:18 (#81931)

good personality, good team player, very organized... -hotpot(麻辣烫); 2001.5.26 23:23 (#81935)

if u don't mind, i'd like to be your friend's reference. give me your friend's resume and somethign else, and contact me first. -yellow(yellow); 2001.5.27 01:28 (#82054)

是我要他给我做REFERENCE。 -ggsddu(ggsddu); 2001.5.27 01:30 (#82058)

绕口令 -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.27 01:32 (#82060)

I just did a job reference for a guy. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 00:08 (504 bytes. #82797)

They just asked 1-2 simple questions? -guest:; 2001.5.28 00:18 (#82811)

Of course, more questions. In job reference, it is very tricky to comment on candidate's week points. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 00:25 (325 bytes. #82819)

week? weak? -yellow(yellow); 2001.5.28 00:27 (#82821)

Sorry for typos. warehouse, or wearhouse? :-) -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 09:30 (#83037)

Good! 你这不是在介绍我么。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.28 00:23 (#82816)

介绍您老人家的时候就要倒过来说啦！“ If your company needs a politician, Mr. EGG is a suitable candidate." -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.5.28 00:47 (#82841)

I would like to say Egg is down-to-mouth.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 09:31 (#83038)

我感觉国内去加的新移民中, 在Java Server Programming , EJB 方面真正有经验的并不多.... 不知道加拿大这方面的需求如何?? 水平如何?? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 23:40 (#81223)

老兄是如何感觉到的？你的这个问题我也想知道答案那 -beyondeast(east); 2001.5.26 07:07 (#81470)

去年不错，现在市场疲软，几乎啥都不成了。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.26 08:56 (#81511)

我见到有移民进程表, 我建议再来一个找工作进程表, 包括那些尚未找到工作的. 如何??!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.26 23:22 (#81932)

呵呵, 主意不错, 就是别忘了面子问题. 就象北京申办2008年奥运会, 因为最近难度比预想的要大, 连媒体上都不象前一阵那么大张旗鼓的宣传了. 因为怕申请失败, 面子上下不去. 找工作进程, 我想情况类似. -pingle(pingle); 2001.5.26 23:29 (#81941)

one guy said he be accomplished in vc,vb,asp,(com/com+),java(jsp,servlets,ejb,application,applet),shell script,unix/nt/linux,weblogic/websphere/iis,oracle,sql server,sybase,udb and delphi,powerbuilder and xml--------Did you believe? -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 22:35 (117 bytes. #81193)

我信不信不重要，你的简历上的经历会表明你的的心态历程 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 23:29 (#81214)

what field did you work in? -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.26 00:59 (#81272)

System Analyst(Java)/Java Architect and Java Programmer 一般地说工资差多少呀 ??!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 22:23 (#81185)

还是先拿到工资再说吧。现在这时候，差多少不是问题，有没有才是问题呀 -guest:EGG; 2001.5.26 01:05 (#81277)

Agree!!! -yellow(yellow); 2001.5.26 01:18 (#81288)

你还没到加吧？ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.26 01:07 (#81284)

我想大多数找工的同志都有和我同样的想法，做本专业的义工都行，只要能积累那该死的肯年点医科死怕人闰死，哪还管什么工资呀。现实点吧。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.5.26 01:21 (#81290)

活姐，该睡了！明天没有腐败嘛？ -yellow(yellow); 2001.5.26 01:22 (#81291)

明天看能不能在YARDSALE给我儿子买辆自行车。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.5.26 01:32 (#81301)

早点起,9点左右开始转，看见感兴趣的东西，如果旁边没有中国人就踏踏实实挑选砍价，如果发现有中国人，特别是开着miniVan的过来，马上买下，少废话，否则，嘿嘿 -guest:EGG; 2001.5.26 01:40 (#81308)

加拿大首季就业形势良好（据王府报道），YES OR NO？ -per(per); 2001.5.25 08:38 (4549 bytes. #80674)

乱七八糟的，反正计算机行业是烂了！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 08:43 (#80679)

老哥，没搞错吧，这个数据我半年前就看过了 -camwood(千里草); 2001.5.25 09:18 (#80695)

对啊,怪不得我看怎么这么熟悉. -guest:; 2001.5.25 09:32 (#80702)

是吗？说的真的还是假的？你工作怎么样啦？ -per(per); 2001.5.25 09:39 (#80709)

非常不好 -camwood(千里草); 2001.5.25 10:32 (#80768)

1Q of year 2000? -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.25 09:48 (#80716)

哦！ -cctvtom(浪翻云); 2001.5.25 10:27 (#80763)

是不是所有程序员面试时都有笔试呀??! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 02:49 (#80623)

嗯噢。 -hercules(蛋泥); 2001.5.25 02:57 (#80627)

Not me. -leedsyu(mimi); 2001.5.25 13:35 (#80935)

Not really. BY asking some very trivial questions, people can know how good you are in your field. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.25 14:03 (831 bytes. #80968)

heihei, You are a killer of candidates. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.25 15:46 (#81037)

Not really. Come in, please. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.25 21:29 (3641 bytes. #81153)

You are right! -guest:Whois; 2001.5.25 23:30 (61 bytes. #81216)

我知道的我的一些朋友：几乎每次都笔试，不笔试的那次拿OFFER。 -bbq(烧烤酱); 2001.5.25 15:25 (#81035)

same for me -bloor(不算太老); 2001.5.25 15:54 (#81039)

不过如果洋文不溜，你在以后学新的东西怎么办？不是很吃力？ -guest:; 2001.5.25 17:50 (#81069)

能找到工作的人，通常在工作中要用到的英语都没有太大问题，至于学新的东西，我的观点是对一个合格的程序员来说根本不是问题，因为专业英语比起实际生活中的英语来说真是非常简单。 -guest:; 2001.5.25 21:43 (#81161)

我不知道你是在国内还是加拿大，不过如果你搞一些东西可能是这样，新玩意不是那么容易的 -guest:cs; 2001.5.25 23:00 (#81200)

我在CANADA。不知道你的“新”是指什么？计算机专业毕业后从事开发的程序员，学本行的新知识通常没有问题。来这里后改行学了几个月的人绝大部分是无法跟他们相比的，因为知识面不一样。面试的时候不一定看得出来，实际一干马上就知道。 -guest:; 2001.5.26 07:43 (#81479)

"????????????????????????........?" ????????????????? -guest:nohere; 2001.5.26 20:47 (1 bytes. #81793)

Same to you! -guest:; 2001.5.26 22:17 (#81868)

你做C的可能变化少，JAVA的变化大！ -guest:; 2001.5.26 20:53 (#81797)

4+ yrs , Web/Java programming experience , 在加一般工资多少? 每月除去税和住房及吃饭, 大约能剩下多少钱 ??!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 02:12 (#80605)

关键看你的项目的复杂程度!光时间还不够! -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:22 (#80611)

我指一般来说多少钱?? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 02:30 (#80616)

有活干就不错了，还讲钱？如果你能找到,应在30--50k吧 -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:38 (#80618)

这么惨?! 我指每月能有多少剩余 ??!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 02:48 (#80622)

C++ programmer interview 中会有什么技术问题？ -wendywendy(wind); 2001.5.24 19:04 (#80210)

Unless you remember everything in the reference, ... A example: What's real usage of volatile? -littleboat(小舟); 2001.5.24 20:46 (#80241)

郑重声明：以上言论由我劳工发表，与小舟无关 -littleboat(小舟); 2001.5.24 20:51 (#80248)

你劳工怎么会与你无关？至少是管教不严之过啊……hoho -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.5.24 20:52 (#80254)

他说要用我的机器测一下程序。结果，我一转身，他就贴了这一贴。 -littleboat(小舟); 2001.5.24 21:29 (#80301)

〖精华〗 Java job interview questions: Not too hard -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.24 21:27 (2956 bytes. #80151)

Hey, thank you so much . u r really helpful . -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 21:25 (#80293)

hi jobber, can you tell me the answer of this question from you -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.26 01:06 (291 bytes. #81282)

Here you are.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.26 09:33 (1774 bytes. #81541)

Hi,jabber,I've just arrived in Toronto . I was greatly confused after considering Canadian job market and my background, could you give me some advices? Please come in... -catchfire(catchfire); 2001.5.24 12:08 (632 bytes. #80006)

I am not in Toronto, so my advixe cannot make much sense. Come in. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.24 12:44 (371 bytes. #80025)

Thanks a lot, jabber. I know what I should to do depends on myself. I like java and I believe that I could become a good java programmer after hard learning and practice. But , -catchfire(catchfire); 2001.5.24 13:10 (362 bytes. #80043)

I think you don't need to choose from Java and C++. They are a bit similar (so it's not so hard to be familiared with both of them for you), and your UNIX experience will also give you a lot help. -bloor(不算太老); 2001.5.24 13:15 (#80045)

Thanks. -catchfire(catchfire); 2001.5.24 15:26 (#80134)

no offense...but if your english sucks like Jabber, I do not see to many hope for u... -guest:Rayman; 2001.5.28 13:06 (209 bytes. #83137)

Are there some materials on Sun's with a lot of instructive and runable examples ?? Can u show some of them ?? ThankU in advance . -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 21:29 (#80304)

Just some examples -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.25 15:17 (141 bytes. #81033)

关于java 程序员要求到多深?? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 00:51 (#80544)

Let me try to answer your question -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.25 21:41 (474 bytes. #81160)

MR. Jabber, Where can I find the book, Jason Hunter's Servlet Programming. I want to study it carefully according to your advice -beyondeast(east); 2001.5.26 07:05 (#81469)

I don't think we can download it from internet. You need to buy it. On its cover is a tea pot. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.26 09:11 (#81526)

if you want learn the java, go http://developer.java.sun.com/developer There are should the most materials you needed! -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.26 22:05 (#81851)

Jabber, Where can I get Jason Hunter's Servlet Programming? Is it a book? -guest:wuy; 2001.5.26 09:18 (#81533)

That book is on my desk. Hi the guy upstairs, try this website: www.servlets.com -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.26 09:21 (#81535)

Egg, I got my first programmer job by learning Jason Hunter's book. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.26 09:48 (868 bytes. #81553)

GOOD! Hope I can keep my job by this book. Could you also recommend a book to me that can let me win lotto? I just find it's much much useful than any book about servlet and EJB, hei hei hei. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.26 22:05 (#81852)

agree. heihei... -albxu(Yukon); 2001.5.26 22:08 (#81854)

Here is a solution -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 00:01 (113 bytes. #82791)

My best record on this was that only 2 numbers out of 6 were matched. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.28 00:24 (#82818)

You have gone much farter than I. Keep going! -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 00:36 (#82828)

我在网上找到了PDF格式的Java Servlet Programming by Jason Hunter 但 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.27 18:31 (184 bytes. #82431)

Jason Hunter 已出了Java Servlet Programming的第二版了。支持到2.3, 多伦多就有得卖。 -henryliu(Shaolin); 2001.5.28 06:34 (#82981)

Edition one is obsolete, though it may be useful for veterans -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.28 09:51 (#83053)

请问huofu哪里可以download这本书，我打不开你的帖子 -guest:guest; 2001.5.28 10:19 (#83072)

网址是："http://www.mightywords.com/browse/details_bc05.jsp?sku=MWKIAM&privateLabel=false"，但Jabber说是第一版,555555 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.28 12:15 (#83115)

Of course, we should not use the first edition now. Servlet API have been evolving -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.30 20:15 (#85409)

加拿大的Java Server Programming 的就业市场如何? 有人有此经验??! 请赐教! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 05:25 (#79817)

it's not very good now. -eglington(eglington); 2001.5.24 09:55 (#79910)

现在供过于求！ -guest:; 2001.5.24 09:59 (#79914)

供过于求不要紧, 只要我名列前矛即可. 他们水平都有多高呀??! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 21:27 (#80298)

5年以上java经验。 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.5.24 21:29 (#80302)

那我就没戏了。我总共工作经验才4年. 那些有5年Java工作经验的朋友都找不到工作吗? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 21:53 (#80335)

我是说简历上写的。 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.5.24 22:01 (#80344)

日进斗斤在开玩笑，java才几年？ -bingle(bingle); 2001.5.24 22:01 (#80347)

可有人简历上就这么写，再说acezl连这个都不知道，怎么敢称自己名列前茅。 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.5.24 22:06 (#80354)

就算你的技术水平名列前茅，你的英语水平能名列前茅吗？比加拿大工作经验你能名列前茅吗？ -guest:; 2001.5.24 21:47 (#80329)

我衷心劝慰你,别把自己估计太高. -afang(阿芳); 2001.5.24 22:30 (#80368)

年轻人骄傲一点没关系 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.5.24 22:44 (#80383)

这里不缺高手，许多PHD、MS都在做搬运工 -guest:; 2001.5.24 23:25 (#80454)

博士有什么了不起的. -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.24 23:31 (#80460)

有能耐你甭出国呀！你水平到这里，先按语言水平给你打7折，再按你的加拿大经验给你打8折你说你还剩多少？我刚参加一个面试，实在太凶险了。种族歧视一点不假，只是做的高明的很！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 00:43 (#80528)

具体说说看! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 00:48 (#80538)

某省的政府的一个项目要找2个人，从其考试和面试的题目来看明显是带有倾向性的，说起来话太长。 -guest:; 2001.5.25 00:54 (#80546)

给你举个例子，考试的时候靠些根本用不上的大学里学的基本功，题目全部是问答题，英语不好的人不是不知道怎么答就是时间来不及。面试时的题目象云里雾里听不懂，看你“上路”（肯吃苦，肯干活，不发牢骚）就提醒你。 -guest:面试有三个人，尚且如; 2001.5.25 01:34 (#80572)

那些题目的设计完全是按照已经在这个部门工作人对自己未来工作有利的需要设计的。 -guest:; 2001.5.25 01:51 (#80588)

你的意思是没能耐的才出国 ?! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.25 00:52 (#80545)

有这个成分，加拿大税高东西贵出国不合算！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 00:55 (#80548)

这就不明白了如果在上海北京这样的高手应该在12k左右/月两千多CND还呆在这当搬运工干啥？ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 01:45 (#80579)

现在回国的不少 -guest:; 2001.5.25 01:46 (#80581)

看来你很闲呀，现在还在线！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 01:49 (#80583)

刚INTERVIEW 回来。太凶险了！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 01:52 (#80591)

我也刚interview,但感觉比以前好多了,刚到时特despair,现在好多了！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 01:58 (#80595)

我面试的是一个政府部门情况比你复杂。 -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:00 (#80598)

你现在在那？Toronto? -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:04 (#80601)

yap -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:07 (#80602)

你说啥？我听不懂！麻烦用国语！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:09 (#80603)

偶在土论土！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:10 (#80604)

我是刚到的！这的情况确是不好！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:13 (#80607)

肛道就有面试，高手嘛！ -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:16 (#80608)

你的话很有讽刺味道！到加的人都很喜欢说高手都...。能力的高低不仅在技术上。还有很多其他因数。 -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:26 (#80612)

有没有供不过于求的行业？ -susse(逃半仙); 2001.5.25 01:38 (#80576)

太多了！报纸上到处都是，特别是护士，你干吗？ -guest:; 2001.5.25 01:39 (#80577)

how long did you come to canada? -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 01:49 (#80585)

2 years -guest:; 2001.5.25 01:52 (#80590)

那些小小的IT公司情况怎样?? 他们缺人吗?? 能雇的起人吗? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.26 23:26 (#81937)

我支持你，年轻人就该骄傲一点。过来全都听到的是这里的高手如何如何多还找不到工作。有真才实学到那都一样。没有找不到的！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.24 23:22 (#80450)

不是说谁没有真才实学, 只是不要太乐观了,把期望值稍微降低一点, 这样不至于太失望. -afang(阿芳); 2001.5.25 00:31 (#80523)

坚持乐观，只要不扑倒街头，总会有憋不住乐的时候 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 00:37 (#80526)

走呀走,乐呀乐,还不知能活几年,赶紧头着乐几下. -afang(阿芳); 2001.5.25 00:44 (#80531)

哈哈哈 -bingle(bingle); 2001.5.25 00:47 (#80537)

曾经有一个能乐的机会摆在我面前我没有珍惜，直到自己都已经不会笑时才追悔莫及，世间悲哀的事莫过于此，若上天能给我机会重新来过，我会让我对着自己微笑，若一定要让我面对观众，我就要对每个人微笑。 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 01:23 (#80562)

Gao!! -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.25 09:56 (#80722)

我不是说过份乐观，在困境中依然要保持自信乐观！成功的慨率要高些！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 01:54 (#80592)

是很难，语言不通，就业困难！但人生就该就此作罢吗？我们来加是为什么？为自己的理想而洗盘我赞成，我生存而洗盘我反对！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:03 (#80599)

洋人很狡猾,千万不要太天真! -guest:; 2001.5.25 02:21 (#80609)

中国人不狡猾吗？天下都一样！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:28 (#80614)

理想和生存是不矛盾的，一个柔韧大度的态度，是面对你现实困难的利器 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 02:27 (#80613)

同意，但就怕柔韧得挺不起来了！ huofu的文笔很好吗！ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 02:42 (#80619)

该硬时自然会硬。呵呵，你很喜欢惊叹号啊 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 03:05 (#80630)

喜欢惊叹号有什么说法吗？ -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 03:06 (#80631)

夜深人静，一惊一咋的 -huofu(huofu); 2001.5.25 03:09 (#80632)

bye -allenzhouca(dodo); 2001.5.25 03:15 (#80633)

请问各位大虾，哪里能买到最优惠的上网服务，即等着用，免费的已经用完了。谢谢。 -newface(newface); 2001.5.21 14:34 (#77321)

3web! -simon_lu(ESL); 2001.5.21 14:36 (#77322)

netzero -abn(伟翰); 2001.5.21 14:47 (#77325)

我按你的招做了，不灵，他还是知道我的用户名，说明我没有成功 -guest:; 2001.5.21 14:56 (#77329)

你没有将所有的文件删干净 -abn(伟翰); 2001.5.21 15:03 (#77332)

现在申请AOL Canada，送三个月免费试用，前提是你必须有信用卡。 -susan-tang(Susan); 2001.5.21 23:28 (#77737)

WWW.CENTTEL.COM ，100 小时的 SILVER PLAN，便宜实用。 -rollor(Rollor); 2001.5.22 09:52 (#77994)

今天到MONSTER的加拿大网站查了一下有关关键字,发觉IT行业就业形势在很长的一段时间里不容乐观 -allentown(allentown); 2001.5.21 09:15 (260 bytes. #77108)

有些JAVA短训班因为市场不好都解散了 -ggsddu(ggsddu); 2001.5.21 09:40 (#77121)

Believe me, those good days of IT guys won't come again. From now on, new hands must pay doubled or quadrupled prices to get in the field. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.21 11:53 (#77233)

not agree.只是大气候不好。待得经济好转，还一样热门，至少十年内应该这样。流行的技术可能会不一样，但现在还看不出可以替代手工programming的东西。 -smallwhale(外有引力); 2001.5.24 01:22 (#79713)

Indeed, competent programmers can still make a good living. But it is more difficult for green hands to get opportunites. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.24 09:53 (60 bytes. #79908)

关键在于那个无法琢磨的供求关系！高科技是好，可是其他行业的发展如果没有大的发展，也就没有太多的资金用于购买高科技。这次的衰退就是大家对高科技的需求估计过高造成的！ -guest:; 2001.5.24 09:57 (#79913)

I can't agree with you, actually IT doesn't equal Programmer, Developer. -songl(风); 2001.5.24 12:59 (#80029)

Academically, you are right. Unfortunately, most Chinese IT guys are developers and programmers. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.24 15:41 (#80144)

In fact, the programmer is the best now. others almost have no chance. -guest:guest; 2001.5.24 16:22 (#80160)

我听说IBM的E-business Dpt 要LAY OFF 300人. -afang(阿芳); 2001.5.24 14:32 (#80105)

many companies went out of business already, but not many outsiders even know that. -guest:; 2001.5.24 17:02 (#80175)

300 is just a very small number these days. it happens in many other companies, and is ignored ... nortel -- 15000 cisco -- 8000 JDS -- 6000 Dell -- 4500 Lucent -- 80000 DNT -- 4000 the list goes on and on ... -guest:; 2001.5.24 17:11 (#80180)

在 Newsgroups 上是否有关于移民的 group ?? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.21 06:57 (#77067)

misc.immigration.canada -keny(keny); 2001.5.22 11:01 (#78024)

哪里有在加找工(java programmer)时, 面世时有关Java/J2EE/EJB/JSP 的技术问题集锦或实例?? 大家知道不管真正的水平多高, 不准备肯定不行!! -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.20 23:48 (#76764)

赞成!我也非常希望ROLIA能够为更广大的网友提供这方面的支持!!!!! -scocindy(sweet lion); 2001.5.21 03:39 (#76965)

I am going to interview some candidates for a lead Java developer and an Java architect position. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.21 12:19 (1493 bytes. #77246)

HI jabber. I think there are not difficult for me. If you realy want a senior programmer in your comapny, I can try it since I can answer all the questions without reference by hands. I am serious -guest:whois; 2001.5.21 15:19 (#77338)

send resume to us, we are looking for people -guest:jason; 2001.5.21 16:21 (20 bytes. #77370)

Hi, buddy, thank you! But your company is a usa company, could you tell me if your esteemed company has an office in Toronto? -guest:whois; 2001.5.21 23:35 (#77752)

emergency! PLz -guest:whois; 2001.5.21 23:36 (#77753)

we have a office in toronto. -guest:jason; 2001.5.22 17:51 (#78221)

Hi, jabber. For EJB, especially for entity bean, I beleive how to choose transaction mode is important which is related to the performance and scallibiity of the project and database. lead developer should concern it. -guest:whois; 2001.5.21 15:35 (#77346)

Thank you for your response. I was very conservative in presenting these questions. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.21 16:37 (1262 bytes. #77374)

Hi, jabber -guest:whois; 2001.5.21 23:31 (1010 bytes. #77748)

I feel the questions are quite easy and basic . Do you the questions like these could be called typical for a interview tech-question ? IF yes , I would be happy with this . -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.21 23:17 (298 bytes. #77709)

Yes, they are quite easy. Come in, please. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.22 09:42 (2291 bytes. #77988)

How about the candidate can't understand you well? will you give him the chance? -guest:duck; 2001.5.22 12:43 (#78073)

If the candidates pretends to have understood me, it is his/her business. Come in, please. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.22 13:12 (162 bytes. #78083)

except technoledge skill, what other thing will you conisder? communication skill or attitude? Please tell me more. Thanks! -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.22 13:28 (#78089)

Personality, Communication Skills.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.22 17:17 (1113 bytes. #78199)

what do you think about canadian experience, if the cadidate has no canadian experience, it means no chance? -firefox(firefox); 2001.5.22 13:39 (#78097)

Sorry, I cannot answer this question because I don't have Canadian experiences ..... -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.22 17:34 (1168 bytes. #78211)

Sailor, Which company do you use for web hosting of rolia.com? Is the services good or not? I would like to apply for the service. Could you give me an idea which company has the lower price? Thanks. -enternet(Enternet); 2001.5.18 14:51 (93 bytes. #75068)

哪位朋友推荐一下性价比最好的可写光驱？谢谢！ -itseeker(Cyberman); 2001.5.18 14:39 (#75056)

SQL server 内存泄露问题 -xiaoxiao(笑笑); 2001.5.18 03:28 (424 bytes. #74451)

Check Service Pack? both OS and SQL Server -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.5.18 11:28 (#74835)

谢谢！我在机器上装的是SP5，我又重新安装了一遍，不过还是依然如故。不知跟SP5的版本有没有关系？ -xiaoxiao(笑笑); 2001.5.21 03:46 (#76970)

SQL server的service Pack呢？其实我也不是很清楚这个问题。不过据常理推断，觉得首先要看看patch level而已。我建议你到msdn的站上去搜索一下，应该会有帮助的。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.5.21 11:07 (#77186)

听说网络上有各种兴趣小组，他们在那儿，我如何能参加呢？请各位指教 -beata(ru); 2001.5.18 03:11 (#74442)

You can try Yahoo Club. -bloor(不算太老); 2001.5.18 09:43 (#74704)

thank you -beata(ru); 2001.5.18 18:07 (#75201)

这两天正在看JAVA，但总觉得没有一个IDE顺手，什么Forte, JBuilder我怎么都觉得比VS差太多了。谁能不吝赐教，用JAVA开发的公司在用什么？ -mcherokee(浆糊); 2001.5.15 23:53 (135 bytes. #71854)

My friend, Java's life is in its enterpreise application. Not good for desk-top applications. -jabber(jabber); 2001.5.16 00:06 (#71871)

i do think this is a major disadvertage of JAVA. for many time, you will have to develop JAVA on NT platform. -guest:sun; 2001.5.16 00:17 (#71874)

Java界面开发重点在于她的跨平台性。如果用java的swing类库，可以使应用程序在unix与windows下完全一致。为了实现界面的跨平台，java不能用vs中像素定位的构件拖放模式，java才用了布局管理的界面管理方式。当然现在java的应用重点在于服务层的应用如开发servlet,ejb等。 -crayannie(cray); 2001.5.16 01:24 (#71928)

我用Notepad.exe -jdzl(绝对重量); 2001.5.16 02:36 (#71969)

我用note pad写的无法运行，据说note pad写的有问题。我只好用Ulrta edit -guest:haha; 2001.5.16 02:46 (#71977)

我用TextPad，它提供对JAVA的支持。很好用。 -bxy(西岭); 2001.5.16 02:49 (#71978)

Editplus ... -maladuona(马拉多纳); 2001.5.16 02:57 (#71984)

allaire的kawa是专业java的开发环境，专为java作了很多工作。但是不支持中文注释，我想对在ca的朋友这不是问题。去www.allaire.com下一个，再去astalavista.box.sk找个注册码。她没有jbuilder庞大，由jdk支持，没有borland的宽展类库。编的代码很纯。 -crayannie(crayannie); 2001.5.16 03:49 (#71997)

用VISUALAGE -bluemoon(bluemoon); 2001.5.16 21:57 (#72632)

Why not try"textpad", it's very good and you can down load it from"www.textpad.com". you will surprise how good it is. -grace30(grace); 2001.5.18 07:20 (4 bytes. #74643)

Anyone familiar with CO-BRAND concept , which is popular in e-business, and how to mask an URL. I have a question related to them.... -ping(Laser); 2001.5.14 21:20 (#70494)

用EJB(应用服务器为Weblogic)来实现业务逻辑性能如何？我该不该采用这种模式来开发？经验用户不妨赐教！不慎感激！ -leonlee(Leon); 2001.5.14 12:19 (78 bytes. #70199)

建议不要采用太新的东西 -crayannie(crayannie); 2001.5.16 04:15 (381 bytes. #72004)

没必要用EJB... ... -maladuona(马拉多纳); 2001.5.16 04:21 (#72007)

同意，开发不要讲时髦，要讲效率，实用，稳定。 -crayannie(心爱的人在加拿大); 2001.5.16 05:38 (#72033)

这种方式不错，很适合分层次底开发。但是效率低一些 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001.5.16 07:56 (#72062)