枫下论坛 /枫下论坛主坛 /工作学习/科技领域杂谈 历史区 第 59 页 -ROLIA.NET 相约加拿大网上社区
- dosbox (opensource, 4 meg) is a good dos box running on xp. -aka(棒棒); 2006.4.8 13:34 (#2892979)
- 论坛上的DX有没有用过什么好的软件,可以允许我记载平常每天所做的事情,还有比如几天或者几个月后的appointment提醒什么的, 当然希望软件越简单越好. 之前都是记在一个带日期的本子上,现在本子用完了,就想转到电脑上. -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.8 00:49 (#2892454)
- 顶一下 -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.8 09:16 (#2892654)
- Microsoft Works -orient(orient); 2006.4.8 09:22 (#2892659)
- Lotus Organizer, exactly the same as your 带日期的本子. -soimer(soimer=soim+er); 2006.4.8 12:21 (#2892877)
- 谢谢各位:) -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.10 11:48 (#2896179)
- Buy a Palm, Palm is the best organizor for Personal Information Management forever. -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.10 12:04 (#2896208)
- palm treo 700w use windows mobile now..:) -speed(如风); 2006.4.12 10:16 (#2900824)
- I know that, actually, I'm so sad about PalmOne failed to bid PalmSource... -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.18 10:57 (#2912171)
- calendar.yahoo.com -tornet(_); 2006.4.10 12:06 (#2896212)
- Outlook -zorov(yy); 2006.4.10 12:56 (#2896367)
- Palm sync with MS outlook. -onboard(农夫之宝); 2006.4.10 13:00 (#2896375)
- 真是谢谢,能给推荐推荐什么样的palm比较好用,价格也不太贵的?当然要能输中文,最好
还能看一些文档. -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.11 10:15 (#2898333)
- 顶一下 -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.11 22:58 (#2900230)
- 感谢你提出这个问题,我也有同样的感觉, Palm PC这个东西,没有觉得有用,有了就觉得没有,我用的是DeLL的,要中文一般要加中文的操作系统,Palm OS, WinCE.看文档资料就装软件word,excel,acrobat.之类的都有for PDA的版本 -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.12 00:51 (37 bytes. #2900502)
- 那你觉的你的palm没用吗? 现在买大概要多少钱呢? -wahth(wahth); 2006.4.12 10:15 (#2900820)
- 可以到www.dell.ca的网站上去看看 -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.12 13:53 (#2901320)
- get a windows mobile -speed(如风); 2006.4.12 10:16 (#2900826)
- Believe it or not, Palm is much better to process Word than PPC. Html&Word is ok using Palm, not CHM, PDF...For your requirements, I would recommend Palm, any model is ok -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.18 11:06 (#2912185)
- I use Palm 500 now. I have used Clie615, Treo600, Treo650, and I decided to buy a Palm 500 simply because it has a very long battery time, less weight, and enough functionality for me. -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.18 10:56 (#2912168)
- Never buy the most expensive one, buy the most suitable one! -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.18 10:59 (#2912176)
- blackberry + exchange/outlook -dashi2k(Da Shi); 2006.4.15 01:30 (#2906855)
- BlackBerry is good, but too expensive, I mean service fee... -zen69(Zen); 2006.4.18 11:00 (#2912179)
- 明天你怎样打手机? -zhixinx(zhuuhui); 2006.4.6 20:39 (2144 bytes. #2889525)
- 明天你怎样打手机? -zhixinx(zhuuhui); 2006.4.6 20:34 (2087 bytes. #2889510)
- 人类的直觉往往是对的 -dongc(chao); 2006.4.6 12:31 (1503 bytes. #2888473)
- 最近想买个19"的LCD, wireless router, All-In-One Printer , 大家有没有推荐?买什么样的合适?大家都在那里买?? -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.6 03:28 (#2887921)
- Canada Computers, 他们是一家值得信赖的华人电脑连锁店,应该是全加拿大最便宜的 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.6 10:19 (#2888133)
- 多谢,是比tigerdirect便宜些 -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.6 11:10 (#2888234)
- PC Village 口碑还好, 你可以比较一下. -hubeir(Hubeir); 2006.4.8 22:00 (#2893685)
- 多谢,已经定了一个DELL UltraSharp 1907FP 19-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor.其他打印机,无线路由在慢慢来... -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.9 01:39 (#2894175)
- 打折的时候是$289 for this Dell 19" monitor -hillman(山大王); 2006.4.9 01:45 (#2894176)
- 现在是330多啊, 那时候没赶上.... :( -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.9 02:32 (#2894192)
- 有哪位大侠在用(或用过)WinRunner做自动测试吗? -rainyday-cheer-up(小雨); 2006.4.5 13:56 (#2886447)
- I do. Post your question here and I'd like to help if I can. -benbenli(大岭); 2006.4.6 20:50 (#2889543)
- Yes, I used it to test web applications. Have you installed the WebTest add-in? When you start WinRunner, have you checked on the WebTest add-in? I just want to make sure this is not a problem so that we can discuss further. -benbenli(大岭); 2006.4.7 21:13 (#2891889)
- Yes, I did. BTW, it's a .net application. Thanks. -rainyday-cheer-up(小雨); 2006.4.10 08:48 (#2895886)
- Can you give more information? You are hoping I can guess everything. What browser you are using? As I know, WR suports only IE and Netscape. If you are using Firefox, WR can not work with it. -benbenli(大岭); 2006.4.10 23:32 (#2897901)
- 会Crystal Report 的同学们帮忙看看! -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.5 09:52 (147 bytes. #2885841)
- up,up -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.5 10:04 (#2885867)
- 大家帮忙啊! -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.5 12:24 (#2886205)
- 把版本说清楚先 -zorov(yy); 2006.4.5 16:29 (#2886832)
- 版本是10 -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.6 11:46 (#2888337)
- 看来是要重装一次 -zorov(yy); 2006.4.6 17:18 (#2889198)
- Re-install. -zdq(zdq); 2006.4.5 13:31 (#2886398)
- 安装的是完整版还是.net版? 盗版? -linux(_); 2006.4.8 22:58 (#2893831)
- 装的是完整盗版:P -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.8 23:20 (#2893894)
- 没装过盗版的,帮不了你了 -zorov(yy); 2006.4.9 14:49 (#2894731)
- 如果以学习为目的的话,下载一个试用版好了,30天的试用期足够了。而且功能不受限制。 -zorov(yy); 2006.4.9 14:52 (#2894735)
- 谢谢 -blithe(半年啦!); 2006.4.11 14:27 (#2899118)
- 外贸货运名词解释专题之一 OEM Page Link -maple_sea(BeiBei); 2006.4.4 23:46 (#2885553)
- come on, what is odm then? -001isbetter(001-is-better); 2006.4.4 23:56 (#2885568)
- Original Design Manufacturer -beibei(beibei); 2006.4.5 00:05 (#2885587)
- 马甲! -001isbetter(001-is-better); 2006.4.5 00:06 (#2885590)
- haha, 人家夫妻俩个,用什么马甲啊? -diao_david(hiking season); 2006.4.5 00:11 (#2885599)
- J2EE or .Net. Which one has better future? -scr(working.......); 2006.4.4 13:25 (#2884009)
- the one I am using has a better future -hailstorm(雨夜寒冰); 2006.4.4 13:31 (#2884037)
- 两个都做的越来越容易, 会的人也越来越多,所以都没啥钱途. 不过就现在来说,大部分Enterprise还是用J2EE的. 如果和SAP或其他一些比如Data Warehouse或CRM,Oracle Finance等跨学科结合,还是很有前途的 -hillman(山大王); 2006.4.4 18:43 (#2884862)
- 新手想入门的话学.net吧,容易上手。 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.4 20:49 (#2885063)
- 如果会在AS/400, mainframe上的Java, 机会比较多,特别在美国,竞争者少。 -guest1(guest); 2006.4.4 21:07 (#2885103)
- [Q]how to isolate unmanaged/non thread safe code in .Net? -carletonwong(carletonwong); 2006.4.4 09:45 (568 bytes. #2883442)
- 忘了Win 2000 pro 的 Administrator 的 password, 哪位有好的办法或工具吗?先谢了。 -fzgtim(海的人); 2006.4.3 20:29 (#2882547)
- 去网上下一个 crack password, 或google ' forget windows password" , you will know how to do it -cl281(担担面&蛋炒饭); 2006.4.3 20:49 (#2882592)
- (ZT)WEB2.0以及未来互联网图景 -andalusia(Andalusia); 2006.4.3 12:39 (9905 bytes. #2881559)
- MPEG4 may take the position of WEB in future. this article is too short-sighted. In future, computer will not have monitor, mouse, keyboard. Vitrual reallity will change all the existing technology. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.4.3 12:49 (#2881583)
- 如果MPEG4没沾上什么地位,MPEG20站上了,那我是该说你远视呢还是近视呢? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.4.3 12:51 (#2881606)
- How much do you know about mpeg4? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.4.3 12:54 (#2881624)
- The IP right is controlled by a small California company. With this MPEG4 will never take the populance on the Web -cerboros(Once Upon Great King); 2006.4.3 13:10 (#2881670)
- 就是个炒作,用来骗风险基金和股市投资者的钱的。 -ywgan(小猪头的爸爸); 2006.4.4 12:10 (#2883793)
- 大道理讲了不少,这里可否有程序员能够实现象MSN Space那样的效果? -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.5 01:16 (#2885647)
- 什么效果啊? -markriver(markriver); 2006.4.5 04:08 (#2885703)
- MSN Space允许用户拖动里面的部分,拖动时为半透明效果,觉得很神奇,昨天晚上在研究微软是怎么实现的,我问的就是这种效果 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.5 13:19 (#2886373)
- 用
or
很容易的,IE5刚出来就有了 -zhihaoxx()(); 2006.4.5 13:48 (#2886431)
- DHTML就可以吧? -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2006.4.5 14:19 (#2886514)
- 那个东西没什么神秘的,就是WebDAV呗。 -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.4.5 08:47 (#2885760)
- WebDAV? 没听说过,一会Google看看,我在用
+ CSS 也可以实现那样的效果,透明拖动
-binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.5 13:12 (#2886346)
- Thanks,强呀,这个网站真好,收藏了,多谢楼上各位,其实在我眼里能实现这种DHTML效果就是Web 2.0了,哈哈 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.4.5 14:29 (#2886546)
- WebDAV ?! Web-based Distributed Authoring and Versioning. 好像和这个没有什么关系哟。 -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.4.22 08:54 (#2920849)
- 有谁想考ccie voice?闲着没事,想学习学习,voice有钱途啊,haha -shapei(沙皮狗); 2006.4.1 23:29 (#2879428)
- 关于PIX对应2个VLAN的问题 -8221129(8221129); 2006.4.1 01:32 (319 bytes. #2877901)
- pix support trunk interface -ccie_sec(ciscoguy); 2006.4.1 02:33 (#2877925)
- 那不是更简单乐。 两个内网端口对应两个vlan呗。 用每个内网端口地址作为两个vlan的default gateway. switch上联pix的两个端口用access mode. -dennis2000(dennis2000); 2006.4.2 16:25 (#2880296)
- nat (inside) 1 0 0
global (outside) 1 interface -shapei(沙皮狗); 2006.4.2 17:31 (#2880376)
- 你是说没有GOLBAL语句和NAT对应? -8221129(8221129); 2006.4.2 17:54 (#2880401)
- u right, i set nat and global this time.thank you 老沙
Just add nat (inside) 1 0 0 global (outside) 1 interface -8221129(8221129); 2006.4.2 19:06 (#2880472)
- 我个人一直认为:很多软件工具,其目的使程序员变傻,然后到达垄断和利润的目的.VB不算,因为它明说了就是想让你变傻. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 21:58 (#2873111)
- like what? -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 22:47 (#2873297)
- 按照他的思路应该是C++和STL -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 22:55 (#2873320)
- C++ 也是很多问题的,你们有兴趣就GOOGLE一下. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 22:58 (#2873329)
- 用什么关键字搜?来点儿实的,别虚晃一枪转身就跑。让咱看书咱看书,您得给个书名儿;让咱google咱google,给个关键字。别拿“去看书”“去google”挡着自己颠儿了 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 23:13 (#2873354)
- FOR EXAMPLE: "STL BUG" -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 23:20 (#2873365)
- STL中的bug不是C++的问题.... -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 23:22 (#2873370)
- http://duramecho.com/ComputerInformation/WhyHowCppConst.html -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 23:21 (#2873368)
- 听您的口音是西北人吧“颠儿了”,我小时候经常这么说,好熟悉 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.3.30 00:13 (#2873448)
- 不光是西北人这么说吧 :D -ice(最后的咖啡); 2006.3.30 00:16 (#2873453)
- 也是,“颠了”应该是北京附近的俚语,以北京为中心大概方圆700公里以内 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.3.30 00:27 (#2873471)
- 我也不知道是哪的口音,但这句应该是我在北京沾染上的。我属于少小离家那种,口音杂了 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.30 10:25 (#2873745)
- 李敖李大师说是正宗北京话 -cheeze(幕后黑手); 2006.3.30 12:49 (#2874061)
- LIKE STL.你如果读多点书,就会知道所谓标准,都是些公司的利益之争.有时候会搞得乱七八糟的.算了,我没有时间再这些问题上纠缠,你要说什么都可以.反正我想说的基本也说了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 22:57 (#2873326)
- 请问哪本书告诉你说标准都是公司的利益之争?STL又是哪些个公司相争的结果? -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 23:06 (#2873344)
- 很显然这个面试是考你会不会STL而不是让你判断该用不用STL,你答题之前应该问问要不要使用STL。如果STL不是必需的,你能说服面试官让他相信你的方法更好,他应该也会让你通过。总之,会不会STL和用不用STL是2回事。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 11:57 (#2873960)
- 面试已经过了,第二次去没考官,就是HR的人给找了台机器就走了。我那时比较土,都不知STL是什么:P -qqqqq(有翼自薄); 2006.3.30 12:07 (#2873983)
- 有点奇怪,都不让你解释你为什么这么实现?我认为给别人讲清楚自己的实现方法比实现本身更难,更重要。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 12:14 (#2873991)
- 面试既然过了,说明对你不会STL不是很在意。我猜可能有别的原因,也许你花时间太久了? -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 12:17 (#2873997)
- 应该不是。我那时是真没有C++ 经验。后来上了班,回想起来,自己当初作的程序,就是在C外边包了一层C++的皮 -qqqqq(有翼自薄); 2006.3.30 13:46 (#2874181)
- 那你c++这样子,后来是怎么找到现在的工作的?还是靠自己琢磨融会贯通了c++然后才找到工作? -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 20:09 (#2874870)
- 后来的公司只考C和智商题(现在招人还是只考C),所以玩一样的就进去了 -qqqqq(有翼自薄); 2006.3.30 20:29 (#2874910)
- 来点儿实的,别虚晃一枪转身就跑。变傻了的程序员,等到50岁的时候,学不了新的东西了,就知道了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.30 12:44 (#2873828)
- So? Write assembly in paper is the best -vicky2005(孩子她爹); 2006.3.30 13:00 (#2874080)
- 现在明明是有些人不愿意学新东西(例如STL),倒还好意思说别人 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.30 13:17 (#2874131)
- STL is new? -vicky2005(孩子她爹); 2006.3.30 13:53 (#2874195)
- 〖精华〗 学习怎样用别人的轮子,别重新发明轮子 ---- 从用不用STL往远了扯 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 17:51 (3629 bytes. #2872643)
- 什么是STL? -hailstorm(雨夜寒冰); 2006.3.29 17:52 (#2872647)
- C++的东西吧,好像是用C++的template实现的 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.3.29 19:03 (#2872730)
- Standard Template Library -taop(Bard-Tamer); 2006.3.29 19:05 (#2872732)
- 说起来容易,做起来太难。 -ccloafer(梦游加拿大); 2006.3.29 19:36 (#2872767)
- 谢谢支持. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 21:55 (#2873089)
- 如果就是一般链表,栈这些3,2条语句就解决的简单数据结构用stl还不够麻烦的。用不用是architect决定,tl和一般组员要决定这个吗? -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 21:22 (#2873009)
- 谢谢支持. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 21:55 (#2873091)
- 请你用代码例子解释一下如何用两三条自己的语句实现链表,还有STL为何不能用两三条语句来实现 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 22:24 (#2873210)
- stl只需要一行就搞定了list -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 22:50 (#2873301)
- 你跟我讲的不是一回事。我讲的是list template的实现,写得好的template代码肯定比stl的简洁,因为你只需要实现你要的功能。你讲的是怎么使用,直接用stl或者用自己写template,从使用这个角度来讲,是没用区别的。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 22:58 (#2873331)
- 不明白,你自己就算能写出来,又有什么用呢?别人不能用,因为功能不全,你不干了,别人维护更麻烦 -oasis(oasis); 2006.3.29 23:52 (#2873420)
- 一个链表左右不过是在头上加个节点,在尾上加个节点,在某个节点前/后加节点,删节点,找节点,谈得上什么维护?你一天加一个功能,加个7/8天就没什么可加的了,以后就永远不用动了。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 00:23 (#2873464)
- 我试试 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 19:49 (776 bytes. #2874845)
- 也谢谢你 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.31 14:12 (272 bytes. #2876419)
- My bad, T& operator=(const T& rhs) should be vector& operator=(const vector& rhs) -super_unknown(mailman); 2006.3.31 14:26 (#2876444)
- Concept error -> '如果是java不支持指针我可以理解". Virtually there is no difference of swapping pointers in C++ and swapping references in Java. -super_unknown(mailman); 2006.3.31 11:28 (#2875981)
- 我以后有机会试试看 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.31 14:13 (#2876421)
- 做游戏肯定不喜欢通用的东西,不要说STL,memcpy还要重写几种版本来支持不同的CPU加速。LZ的代码重用的概念也是没有错的,只是过犹不及,人人都用现成轮子,不造新轮子,恐怕现在汽车还在用木头轮子。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.30 21:14 (#2874993)
- 是啊,我对LZ坚决支持。但是实际项目中等真正搞明白设计是否合理往往太晚太晚了。使用面向对象时这种感觉尤其明显,这就是为什么先要分析透彻的原因,可惜这一点是最难做到的,有时候是不可能的事情。 -ccloafer(梦游加拿大); 2006.3.30 22:28 (#2875197)
- 你不会还生活在石器时代吧? -oasis(oasis); 2006.3.30 21:21 (#2875008)
- . -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.31 10:20 (#2875806)
- 我不是在说,今天我要写个小程序,需要用到链表,我是自己实现还是用STL,不是这样的。我说的是在一个team的环境里,做一个实际的项目,今天我要用到链表,明天要用到栈,后天还要用到其它,我的同事和我一样有这样的状况... -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.29 22:35 (#2873247)
- 我也用到单双向链表,栈,但是我不会因此就使用stl,我真的觉得是没有必要。如果你要用到图,数,向量这些东西的话就是另一回事了。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 22:41 (#2873274)
- 数=树 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 22:45 (#2873287)
- 链表,栈,树,MAP,所有东西都在STL里面用最高性能实现了,我看不出你这样用法有什么实际意思.我自己也写DUALLINK,不过用途是MMAP文件后,用链表和skip list进行内存分配和虚拟内存映射.STL里面没有的功能我才自己写 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 22:55 (#2873313)
- 我对此表示怀疑,STL为了保证通用性,亢余无用代码是不可避免的。你举的例子我不太明白,skip list不是单向的吗?但是我感觉你现在这种情况用stl没得到什么好处,因为你还是要自己维护一个双向链表。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 23:17 (#2873361)
- 给我一个STL的TREE.另外,我还想B TREE.我可以用C写一个,您就用STL写一个,如何?至于图的话,我以前写了一些,但是不好,但是,你的STL能写吗?这么简单的STL,想想这世界的存在DATA STRUCTRUE的复杂度再说吧. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 23:18 (#2873363)
- 你是不是根本不知道STL是什么吧?---我可以用C写一个,您就用STL写一个,如何?---太无知了吧? -oasis(oasis); 2006.3.29 23:47 (#2873410)
- . -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.30 00:07 (#2873442)
- don't you know that map/set in STL are all trees, red-black trees in most implementation? -super_unknown(mailman); 2006.3.30 17:55 (#2874654)
- Then write a simple TREE that support a degree of 4. By the way, please pay attention to what is abstract structure and physical structure. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.31 00:36 (#2875487)
- 摆脱你写中文算了,你的阅读能力有问题,我说的是数据结构在硬盘上,不是让你存盘.我现在写的一些代码,连文件系统都没有用,直接就操纵盘上数据块了,这个时候,又如何呢? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.31 11:35 (#2875997)
- Have you ever heard of C++ template and generic programming? -super_unknown(mailman); 2006.3.30 17:57 (#2874656)
- 软件开发的精髓:重用. -tiro(新手上路); 2006.3.29 21:54 (#2873085)
- 看来新手还比很多老手懂行啊,哈哈 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 22:54 (#2873314)
- can't input chinese these days.
nice artitle. it all depends. are you trying to kill a chicken, or a cow. pick a wrong tool will make the work harder. -liuhuaiyu(不找小生意了谁去冰钓); 2006.3.30 01:17 (#2873501)
- 现在轮子是不能乱说得了。改叫不用重新发明轱辘好了 -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2006.3.31 09:59 (#2875758)
- C++从刚出来就开始用到现在,惭愧从来没有听说过STL,也做了、领导做了不少系统。不用什么东西地球不会不转的。用有用的道理,不用有不用的道理。我觉得决定项目最重要的是人而不是什么先进武器,一个十年前的计算机软件系统分析员说。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006.3.31 11:29 (#2875985)
- 对一个项目来说,项目组取得共识是最重要的。妥协也是一门艺术。重新发明一个轮子相比之下就此要的多。看问题从下往上看强调技术,从上往下看强调调动人的积极性。角度不同可能就是为什么年年月月反复出现这类争论的原因。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006.3.31 11:46 (#2876046)
- 同时作为一个PM,首要考虑的是在适当的时间内资源情况下完成指定的项目。可维护性是第二考虑。这也许很难被“现代人”接受,但这是一个事实。连项目都不能完成绝对不是一个好的PM。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006.3.31 11:49 (#2876058)
- 觉得别人在谈技术吧,和PM是两回事。用C++不知道STL,只能算很初级的C++PROGRAMMER或
者很老的又不UPDATE自己知识的SR DESIGNER。 -wade(blank slate); 2006.3.31 13:47 (#2876375)
- 如果STL和virtual function都没用过, 那就根本不算C++程序员了. -benbenli(大岭); 2006.4.2 10:28 (#2879781)
- 各位大侠,不好意思,小的插一嘴,如何简单地实现个B+树啊?多谢了 -dect2(一休哥); 2006.4.3 10:42 (#2881354)
- google C++ B+ tree, you can find a lot. e.g. Page Link -benbenli(大岭); 2006.4.3 20:53 (#2882604)
- 汗ing, 看不太懂。我是做不了这份很有前途的工作了。 -dect2(一休哥); 2006.4.3 21:17 (#2882666)
- SQL server 中,怎么让stored procedure在同一个时间只能允许一个用户运行? -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 00:34 (#2871348)
- dedicate username/password and transaction? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 08:39 (#2871459)
- i created a SP, of which only one execution is allowed at a time, whatever the username, password is, how to accomplish it? , thx! -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 09:13 (#2871494)
- Give username and password to only one person. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 09:29 (#2871526)
- No!, I still need other people to run SP other time, but one instance at one time -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 09:39 (#2871541)
- Sorry, i am just kidding you, lock the table or row will work. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 09:51 (#2871552)
- then what's the benifit of using stored procedure? you can ask the user to run the sql script manually every time he needs to run and lock every resource the job demands -buma(buma); 2006.3.29 09:46 (#2871549)
- I guess using SET TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE could be a solution, but seriously i think there might be some design issue here as well. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 10:49 (#2871683)
- is there a way to check the instance of current sp in process list at the begining of sp, if the number of instance >=2, then quit? -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 10:59 (#2871703)
- If you want to check # of instances, the operation must be atomic, how you can guarantee that? no way. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 11:07 (#2871719)
- There is no solution on SQL Server end??? The calculation in one sp takes 10 minutes and during which I don't want other users to call this sp again thru client application -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 11:46 (#2871807)
- I don't think it's a good idea to put a 10minutes calculation into a stored procedure, as i said, i seriously doubt there are some design issues here. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 11:49 (#2871815)
- then where else is better? move it form a high performace server with 2 3000MHz CPUs to a 450MHz win98? do you think it will be faster??? -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 12:01 (#2871847)
- This sp will severely deteriorate the performance of the whole db server. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 11:55 (#2871831)
- my current solution: At the begining of sp, check existence of a global temporary table, quit if true, else create temporary table and proceed -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 13:29 (#2872064)
- I only need one single flag, why bother using a table plus a field, just for pro. look? -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 15:06 (#2872321)
- 你的问题会让发明SP的人跳楼的 -elecskunk(elecskunk); 2006.3.29 21:33 (#2873032)
- create a table, one column with unique index. at beginning of the SP, insert a the procedure name to the table, if success, go future, if not, return. before the SP finish, delete the line inserted at begining of the SP. -647i(-); 2006.3.29 21:44 (#2873057)
- Correct...... -hard20(hard20); 2006.3.29 22:22 (#2873207)
- thx, this is what i am doing now, I use a global temporary table instead. but i am looking for a way to check system processes or something else, and query sysprocesses does not work. -luking(luking); 2006.3.29 22:41 (#2873269)
- You can check if there is any process running your SP by querying sysprocesses or dbcc inputbuffer or another undocumented query. -wdw2130833(二拖二); 2006.3.29 22:02 (#2873127)
- 请教,两年前买的RSP,有报税单据约100多元,但是忘记报了,是否可以现在用,或者明年用?因为2005已经买齐了。谢谢 -nolater(nolater); 2006.3.28 22:32 (#2871094)
- Who can help me solve this problem when I try to burn a DVD ? -jaja321(Sweet Ketty); 2006.3.25 15:07 (308 bytes. #2864290)
- c 盘空间太小,删掉一些文件。 c:\Docume~1/a/Locals~1/Temp is the system temp folder for user "a" -mutantx(阿吉); 2006.3.25 16:05 (#2864347)
- but my c still has 1.9GB free space, not enough? -jaja321(Sweet Ketty); 2006.3.25 18:08 (#2864502)
- 3.6G>1.9G -holdon(again); 2006.3.25 19:04 (#2864589)
- Thank you for help. But, why can't I locate to this temp folder and do a deletion? -jaja321(Sweet Ketty); 2006.3.25 18:12 (#2864514)
- 硬盘不够, 买一个新的OR把TEMP目录制定到D: -flyingpig(小飞猪); 2006.3.25 16:23 (#2864366)
- 原来可以,现在不可以,说明Temporary Internet Files的文件夹临时文件太多,删掉就可以了 -smilodon(欠费开机); 2006.3.25 19:18 (#2864607)
- 〖精华〗 从“文人相轻”到“IT人相轻” ---- Developer PK Tester -c-c-c(c-c-c); 2006.3.25 08:06 (4293 bytes. #2863749)
- 好的程序员能挣18万PERMANET, 好的TEST MANAGER也才12万, 区别就是大。 -cerboros(Once Upon Great King); 2006.3.25 11:26 (#2863992)
- 我是一个郁闷的Tester,天天想着转回做Developer。做Tester太简单,太无聊。 -lionel(Lionel); 2006.3.25 12:05 (#2864048)
- 如果一个在你们眼里好的Tester的话,那么这个Tester可能会做好更有意义的事情,做Tester真是浪费了人才! -vetra(piyupiyu); 2006.3.25 12:24 (#2864099)
- 有的tester要求很高,但加拿大的多数要求不高,所以networking很重要,学什么专业的都去做tester. 有能力作其他技术工作还是不做tester的好。 -guest1(guest); 2006.3.25 12:27 (#2864113)
- yea -lionel(Lionel); 2006.3.25 13:01 (#2864171)
- TESTER做的好不容易。 这个软件质量工程国内现在也不知道做的咋样字了, 反正一个公司里找好的程序员容易, 找到好的QA基本没戏 -ningxin0809(雁影行洲); 2006.3.25 12:27 (#2864114)
- 我记得八十年代的时候, 在全国曾经风风火火地推行"全面质量管理", 九十年代初又搞ISO9000认证, 可惜的是大多数都是"画虎不成反类犬". -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006.3.26 09:00 (#2865607)
- 现在国内大公司的软件工程都做的不错 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.28 20:47 (#2870797)
- 文章不错,不过您遇到的第一位教授实在是个吹牛不上税的主,别的不说,请他的朋友去break Donald Knuth 的tex。您那第二位教授就更弱了,5分钟的script要琢磨一星期,come on,他就是去google也不至于一星期吧 -galactica(掂花狂笑); 2006.3.25 13:12 (#2864183)
- Just curious, PDFCreator on Linux? Must be kidding... -jchonc(James); 2006.3.25 21:25 (#2864862)
- 您不会那么死吧? 他只是提出一个思路, 又不是给初学者写TUTORIAL, 要把不同的系统下用不同的CONVERT程序一个个写出来. -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006.3.26 08:56 (#2865603)
- the art of computer programming, he is an artist -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.25 20:44 (#2864758)
- 呵呵, 他老人家是我偶像. 他的三册一套的THE ARE OF COMPUTER PROGRAMMING我花了199大元放在书架上顶礼膜拜. 只拿它来膜拜因为看不懂还. -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006.3.26 08:42 (#2865587)
- 我看到的TESTER怎么都是草包?我看这些人就是些混饭吃的主,什么也不懂,就知道点MOUSE,挣的还不少,这加拿大是怎么了? 不过我也是混饭吃! -newjames(纽詹姆斯); 2006.3.25 14:18 (#2864243)
- 不是草包,就不会只做个DEVELOPER或TESTER了,其实都是混饭吃,比个P, -nice2002(+4); 2006.3.25 15:16 (#2864307)
- 那你们公司的程序员有多少是只会写hello world的呢? -bugfree(BugFree); 2006.3.26 11:27 (#2865846)
- 我看搞IT的很多都不太懂QA,QC,ISO9000,也不懂为是么要QA,在他们看来QA好像都是在作重复工作,或者是很幼稚的事。 -ccie_sec(ciscoguy); 2006.3.25 23:07 (#2865178)
- should be: 我看Developers很多都不太懂QA,QC,ISO9000,也不懂为是么要QA,在他们看来QA好像都是在作重复工作,或者是很幼稚的事。 -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006.3.25 23:33 (#2865266)
- "A Real Programmer",听说过这种说服吗? 我以前就想要一个这样的TITLE: "SENIOR PROGRAMMER". That's it. A real programmer knows everything, from coding to testing to process to PM. 很多一流的家伙喜欢那样称呼自己. -eaglezshadow(鹰影); 2006.3.26 00:11 (#2865354)
- 从“文人相轻”到“IT人相轻” ---- Developer PK Networker PK UNIXer Page Link -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006.3.25 23:30 (#2865255)
- 测试您是否具有一个TESTER的意识? ---- 假如您买了一辆新自行车, 骑出去的第一天, 突然前叉断了. 您会怎么想? -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006.3.26 08:49 (#2865598)
- 测试您是否懂得一点基本的TESTING技能 ---- 用10分钟找出ROLIA高级搜索的3个BUG. (不敢让大家测试ROLIA的发表或者回复, 因为很可能把ROLIA给CRASH掉.) -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006.3.26 08:53 (#2865601)
- 加一题,rolia一分钟能handle多少个正确request,多少个错误的request -henryan(Henry); 2006.3.26 09:58 (#2865705)
- if you want to go to jail, go ahead to do that -bugfree(BugFree); 2006.3.26 11:26 (#2865842)
- 开开玩笑,你又何必当真。rolia不过是share hosting,这个test case根本就是没有意义的。 -henryan(Henry); 2006.3.26 16:25 (#2866250)
- 问你几个小问题,用HTTP协议来获取一个网页的时候,怎样通过HTTP HEADER来得知整个HTTP BODY的长度?测试URL的时候怎样生成BASE64字符串? -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.27 22:51 (#2868954)
- 哪位知道系统底层的硬件驱动和协议驱动,属于IT中哪种类别?我在好多的求职的网站都不知该到哪个分类找,请赐教! -wllee(Lottolee); 2006.3.24 21:34 (#2863223)
- device driver or protocol stack? check embedded and good luck! -max2000(max); 2006.3.24 23:12 (#2863478)
- 直接按照你用的技术SEARCH即可. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.30 14:52 (#2874299)
- SQL 高手请帮忙!! -memeling(Double M); 2006.3.24 19:11 (822 bytes. #2862940)
- 怎么没见a? -markriver(markriver); 2006.3.24 19:30 (#2862960)
- Should be "b". Sorry. -memeling(Double M); 2006.3.24 19:47 (#2862987)
- no where , having -markriver(markriver); 2006.3.24 21:51 (#2863264)
- 好像还是不行. -memeling(Double M); 2006.3.24 22:43 (#2863395)
- remove "as flag" from the end should work -tootoo(倚老卖老); 2006.3.27 15:33 (#2868162)
- Solved.
THanks for your help. -memeling(Double M); 2006.3.27 19:16 (#2868515)
- 怎么解决的也不说说? -markriver(markriver); 2006.3.28 18:05 (#2870497)
- 移民短登现在国内,ouac上在线申请大学,是选择105D还是105F表啊,看网页要求,移民在国内申请需要填105F表吧? -cagesd(超速); 2006.3.24 12:28 (#2862116)
- 我是2000年拿的MCSE FOR WINDOWS 2000,我现在想更新到2003,请问哪位知道多伦多有没有考试中心啊,谢谢! -mercedes(Mercedes-Benz); 2006.3.19 10:25 (#2849916)
- MCSE不会用Google起码也该会使用msn吧? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.19 13:15 (#2850254)
- 如果不会用msn, 起码也该知道MCSE是microsoft发的证吧? -calgarycat(卡城大猫); 2006.3.19 13:32 (#2850288)
- 无一个义人 -buma(buma); 2006.3.20 23:03 (#2854070)
- http://www.prometric.com/Default.htm 很多考试点儿,选一个离你近的. -markriver(markriver); 2006.3.20 22:58 (#2854058)
- 谁有"太行"发动机的主要参数贴来看看? Page Link -tap-tap(开闸灌水); 2006.3.16 23:56 (#2845189)
- 朋友有个网站www.meet2003.com, 想在国外找个备份服务器, 以便国内服务器连接中断时切换.大家推荐一下好吗? 多谢! -zhutiger(虎虎); 2006.3.16 22:28 (#2844928)
- 1&1 -001isbetter(001-is-better); 2006.3.16 23:08 (#2845069)
- MAC email problem? -holdon(again); 2006.3.15 15:53 (222 bytes. #2841484)
- Mac上的很多文件实际上是两个文件组成,只是Mac把它当成一个文件来显示而已。在PC上看确实是两文件。比如是 "a.h" ".a.h". 你只要关心真实文件“就是。 -kaia(打不成瞌睡了); 2006.3.15 18:42 (#2841803)
- 再解释一下。比如Mac上创建的图片文件,在Mac上一般是由两文件组成,一个是Data Fork, 另一个是Resource Fork. -kaia(打不成瞌睡了); 2006.3.15 18:47 (#2841807)
- 谢谢。我查到了这个叫appledouble。不过除了MAC,还有其它email client支持这种东西吗? -holdon(again); 2006.3.17 09:29 (#2845481)
- 这个问题发附件的人应注意,Mac上主要用的email软件是Mail和Entourage, 用Mail时应选Edit > Attachments > Always Send Windows Friendly Attachments,用Entourage时在encode an attachment里选Windows (MIME/Base 6)。 -nanshan(南山书生); 2006.3.17 10:13 (#2845599)
- Did you say GNU/Linux? Will you? Page Link Pic Link -haihai(享受阳光); 2006.3.15 13:41 (#2841248)
- Linux is not as good as GNU. linux is not big project indeed. In my opinion, it is only part of the kernel is deverlopped bu Linus. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.16 16:35 (#2844079)
- 谁能帮我把这个C CODE 转成能在LINUX 下运行的二进制文件?多谢! -spy66(spy); 2006.3.15 12:14 (6854 bytes. #2841088)
- #include "stdafx.h" ??? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.15 12:27 (#2841109)
- oh, that was added automatically by .NET system. I don't need it anyway. -spy66(spy); 2006.3.15 12:49 (#2841165)
- Get a Linux box with GCC, and try yourself. -hubeir(Hubeir); 2006.3.21 19:56 (#2855942)
- how and where to get a linux box with GCC? 3x! -spy66(spy); 2006.4.3 13:04 (#2881656)
- 1, remove the first line; 2. Rolia insert some "watermark" text in the file, though you cannot see them on screen, you will be able to see them in text editor, delete them. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.22 14:57 (#2857720)
- 求救--老板给的题目用SPSS算相关性。我统计早忘记了。 -kentridge(kentridge); 2006.3.15 09:25 (243 bytes. #2840762)
- To tell you a truth: Nothing is free in Canada. Give a price and somebody will help you out.. -hx001(hx001); 2006.3.15 11:14 (#2840966)
- 其实都可以不用统计MODEL,直接用数据处理一下就可啦, 如果该客户没有其他产品订单, 当然他已经定的产品已这产品没有联系,另一办法就是用统计的MODEL,求出R的值, 如果R=0, 说明他们没有联系, R越大, 关系越大. 可惜我不会SPSS, 我只会SAS. -shelley57(shelley); 2006.4.6 12:53 (#2888540)
- Is this related to Bussiness Intelligence or data warehousing? This is also about bussiness logic, I think it's same as upsell -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.15 11:39 (#2841004)
- A little free hint: Use SPSS data mining (Clementine)--Correlation, apriori... -tx101(numbereleven); 2006.3.15 14:47 (#2841358)
- Maybe it's too late to comment. But in your case, a simple cross table is good enough to answer your question. -wayne77(十年); 2006.4.6 12:27 (#2888460)
- A C++ interview question: what are the 3 functions of asterisk (*) in C++? -icanada(I can!); 2006.3.14 21:13 (183 bytes. #2840098)
- Who knows? -icanada(I can!); 2006.3.14 22:24 (#2840270)
- Declare a function call pointer ??? -kaia(打不成瞌睡了); 2006.3.15 18:49 (#2841813)
- correct -zizhe(字者); 2006.3.15 18:51 (#2841814)
- what if you overload it? -ice(红旗下的坏蛋); 2006.3.15 19:38 (#2841891)
- 如何通过C++ STD LIBRARY获得文件的长度.很BASIC的问题,我就不谢了.如果通过tellp,就别告诉我了.太慢和CRUMSY了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.14 11:58 (#2838932)
- ----如-何-通-过- C++ STD LIBRARY-写-SPRINTF.很-BASIC-的-问-题,我-就-不-谢-了-.如果通过ostringstream,就别告诉我了.代码很难看. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.14 12:17 (#2838971)
- 如果通过COUT打出来一个个数, 就别告诉我了, 太费眼了而且容易催眠. -c-c-c(c-c-c); 2006.3.14 16:28 (#2839547)
- 如何通过C++ STD LIBRARY获得目录中的文件.很BASIC的问题,.如果是用C的LIBRARY,就别告诉我了,让我伤心,这个STD LIBRARY不是应该能够做最基本的事情的吗? 如果有答案,无论如何要谢谢的. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.14 17:01 (#2839644)
- 都是OS - Specific 的函数。用std library不怕效率太低? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.15 08:36 (#2840710)
- 不求别的,能做出来就可以了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.15 09:49 (#2840798)
- 这个不make sense, 为什么要让std library做OS-Spesific 的事情? -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.15 09:56 (#2840811)
- STL主要是提供泛型数据结构,例如LIST, MAP, VECTOR等东西. STL是TEMPLATE, 和你说所说的多态恰好是完全相反的东西,你用过STL了吗? -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.27 23:11 (#2869007)
- 用C当然是什么都作的出的。但STL会让你省很多事啊,至少不用自己作链表了。。。 -qqqqq(有翼自薄); 2006.3.29 09:21 (#2871509)
- 自己写一个通用的链表template有这么麻烦吗? -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 21:29 (#2873020)
- 自己写有什么好处吗? -qqqqq(有翼自薄); 2006.4.3 12:54 (#2881625)
- #2876227 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.4.3 17:06 (#2882183)
- 要你这么说,其实Glibc也没用,都自己写得了。 -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 09:31 (#2871530)
- For some evironment, people don't use it. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 10:19 (#2871618)
- Yeah, in some environment, ppl don't use C at all, Oh wait, maybe we don't need computer either. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.29 10:53 (#2871694)
- you are right. Sometimes I will implment system without computer at all. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 12:21 (#2871906)
- If you ever see any computer is extremely reliable, tell me. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 12:22 (#2871912)
- 今天写一个程序,发现一些内存根本就不在PROCESSOR上,所以连指针都不能用,你说这GLIBC如何用? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.4.3 12:42 (#2881574)
- x86的内存都不在processor上,cache有可能在processor上。 -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.4.3 12:48 (#2881596)
- 你真是一个XXXX. 另外,有些X86的内存就在PROCESSOR上, 你就不知道了吧.你的知识挺窄的,还是管好你自己的领域吧. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.4.3 12:58 (#2881633)
- 对你没用的东西不一定对别人也没用。选择用什么本来就是有tradeoff的 -ice(最后的咖啡); 2006.3.29 11:10 (#2871725)
- #2826586 -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 12:15 (#2871887)
- generally speaking, you are right. 有些东西就不要太过火了.
说个笑:就好象毒品,对我没有用,却有些人缺之不可. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 12:19 (#2871900)
- 明明自己不懂STL问一些白痴问题,被人揭穿之后又耍赖说STL无法接受...建议你去医院检查一下 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.29 19:11 (#2872737)
- 2873020 -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 21:49 (#2873073)
- 比如双向链表,不管节点具体是什么,它的节点的删除/添加都是一样的,template就是把这些公用逻辑抽象出来,以后你需要字串链表也好,指针链表也好,这些逻辑就可以直接用了。 -baalinca(scarb); 2006.3.29 21:50 (#2873076)
- 双向链表的C LIBRARY其实我也用,一样可以实现.没有那么漂亮,但是很清晰明白.而且最后可以自己写一个把别人的给换掉. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.31 04:57 (#2875568)
- 如果你来我公司面试这样回答和STL相关的问题,马上就FAIL了 -timhorton(Everyone loves me); 2006.3.27 23:12 (#2869012)
- I think I am not qualified to work for timhorton at all. Thank you. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 09:18 (#2871505)
- 我写这些只是说说笑而已,至于有些人感觉不好,那就对不起了,这个药也都是苦的.我自己先尝一下吧.. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.29 12:24 (#2871918)
- 请FINANCE 和ACCOUNTING 的朋友帮忙.有关dividend问题 -kk629(kk); 2006.3.12 23:10 (239 bytes. #2836427)
- 对付令人讨厌的、糊里花俏的 FLASH / SHOCKWAVE FILE,除了使用 PROXY 来滤除之外,大家还有什么其它妙招没有? -maer(马儿); 2006.3.12 12:37 (#2835110)
- use opera :-D -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.13 23:19 (#2838367)
- Firefox + adblock extension + flash block extension -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.14 09:43 (#2838680)
- 我的浏览器从来就禁止ActiveX -cadillac(Caddy); 2006.3.14 21:31 (#2840144)
- 请问System Designer 和 Senior Developer 哪个职位更高?多谢! -luking(luking); 2006.3.11 10:23 (#2833285)
- 这个问题很难回答,各个公司情况不一样,个人认为senior开头通常待遇上高一点 -zorov(yy); 2006.3.11 10:54 (#2833329)
- someone said it is something like 工程师 vs 高级技工? 那还是工程师地位高点? -luking(luking); 2006.3.11 15:26 (#2833700)
- 刚才在ROLIA搜索“大统华”,结果出来后,顶上黄色HIGHLIGH的显示是“大统black black”,有点意思 -1748( 高山流水); 2006.3.10 23:29 (#2832811)
- 谁能解释清楚“公司”字面上的含义? -notreal(别当真); 2006.3.10 12:35 (#2831402)
- 谁能解释清楚“董事会”字面上的含义? -notreal(别当真); 2006.3.10 12:38 (#2831408)
- 谁能解释清楚“Vision 与 Mission”的区别? -notreal(别当真); 2006.3.10 12:40 (#2831409)
- Vision就是看,是规划,给出宏图。Mission是去做,去完成一个规划,实现鸿图。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.3.10 12:52 (#2831450)
- 明白事情的人们,因而能给出一个明确的方向。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.3.10 12:49 (#2831441)
- 共同的所在。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.3.10 12:41 (#2831412)
- company, com- is something to share, -pany is something for eating, you guys share the food together, this is company -table(桌子来了); 2006.3.10 12:42 (#2831417)
- Pany comes from Pan, which means 锅,Com means something to share, in short, Company means 吃大锅饭。。。 -noproblem(大可以); 2006.3.10 12:48 (#2831437)
- 笑s -tai1or(Tailor); 2006.3.10 13:10 (#2831515)
- hahaha, interesting, actually the word is from Latin, even today in Italian, Pane means bread -table(桌子来了); 2006.3.10 13:11 (#2831519)
- 人家问的是“公司”,你说的是"Company"。字面意思不同。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.3.10 12:54 (#2831457)
- 所以广大中年男国移中午带饭是有充足的理论依据滴 -pasu(InTheSky); 2006.3.10 13:31 (#2831562)
- 哈哈哈,讲得这么暧昧,有断背山的嫌疑喔,人家现在都互称同志了也。 -table(桌子来了); 2006.3.10 13:40 (#2831577)
- 怎么就暖味了?没听懂 -pasu(InTheSky); 2006.3.10 13:47 (#2831594)
- meet somewhere, eat together quietly every noon. -marcelo(marcelo); 2006.3.10 16:37 (#2831985)
- 估计又是日本话。 -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.10 12:45 (#2831426)
- nope -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2006.3.10 13:04 (#2831494)
- 合作 -zxcvb(朝天椒); 2006.3.10 13:11 (#2831517)
- 放一通狗,居然还真得当个事~ -tai1or(Tailor); 2006.3.10 13:38 (#2831576)
- 谢谢大家。 -notreal(别当真); 2006.3.10 16:14 (#2831936)
- 还有“起见”。如为xxx起见。 谁能说清楚啥意思? -647i(-); 2006.3.19 18:16 (#2850774)
- 《it时代周刊》封面故事:“汉芯造假”内幕调查 -co2(二氧化碳); 2006.3.10 11:44 (18961 bytes. #2831247)
- 俺有个同学在中科院微电子所还是个小头目,待俺向他打听打听消息再贴。 -tai1or(Tailor); 2006.3.10 11:52 (#2831274)
- 中科院微电子所前身是中科研半导体所,当年半导体所与INTEL and AMD的前身仙童公司(Fair Child)几乎同时起步,几十年过去了,差距如此之大。我离开中国的时候,半导体所还在自己攒CMOS 4000系列,人家已经奔腾好几代了。。。 -noproblem(大可以); 2006.3.10 12:13 (#2831326)
- 其实国外做CPU有点名气的公司就将近100多家,上千种系列,衍生型号不计其数。做DSP的也有几十家,专业化公司的规模并不一定很大。只能说它是制度性失败,没救了 -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.10 18:59 (#2832205)
- 请问在OTTAWA地区做IT,6年经验,一般可以拿多少钱一年,谢谢。 -fafa01(fafa); 2006.3.9 00:56 (#2828527)
- Anyone knows ??? Senior level software engineer, how much to ask for a year when interview ? -fafa01(fafa); 2006.3.9 23:53 (#2830685)
- 8k - 10k -c-c-c(c-c-c); 2006.3.10 00:14 (#2830721)
- 唉,世风日下了,连自己该拿多少也不知道,竟然也敢称SENIOR -bigeyedog(小心使得万年船); 2006.3.13 14:37 (#2837302)
- 人家才在那里干了6年。 -pigkiller(早起的虫子); 2006.3.13 16:44 (#2837595)
- 要看是那一个领域作了6年。RANGE大概是60K - 100K -wade(blank slate); 2006.3.13 16:45 (#2837599)
- OK, 微软终于推出了Live Search Beta, Good news. 让我们看看Source code, open http://www.live.com/ view source, 看到这一行了吗?document.write(" "); /* normalizes ie and ff, else ie sees an additional top margin */ -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.8 16:31 (#2827376)
- LOL -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 17:02 (#2827443)
- 为什么java没有实现class的多继承 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 16:11 (868 bytes. #2827309)
- 因为冬眠的熊要醒了 -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.8 17:18 (#2827476)
- Thanks. I like this kind of post. -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.3.8 21:25 (#2827987)
- 马桶上看这种书要得ZC的! -helloyou(你好!QQ230); 2006.3.8 21:27 (#2827988)
- 这两本书你都真的看了吗?一本书里面狠狠地夸了AOP,另一本书也介绍了Inversion of Control和Dependency injection。你夸这两本书却又不知道AOP和IoC怎么回事,真是奇怪 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.9 00:24 (#2828496)
- You are good. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.9 05:01 (#2828627)
- 人啊,还是不要去褒贬自己不懂的东西为好。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.9 08:44 (#2828685)
- mark java -oasis(oasis); 2006.3.9 00:37 (#2828506)
- That's the attraction of Java -- an extendable open framework. Take AOP for example, if you like it, you can use it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. (Personally I don't like the idea of AOP.) -guest3(guest); 2006.3.9 16:34 (#2829741)
- C比C++快吗 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 11:29 (2205 bytes. #2826586)
- C可以直接写malloc而C++是一个函数调用???你的理解在这附近有问题.
BY THE WAY,我用C,就基本不用MALLOC.需要动态分配内存的时候,很多时候都是自己搞定. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.8 12:20 (#2826678)
- 有问题是啥问题?他说那个overhead可以通过把constructor inline来避免的,你怎么解释? -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:23 (#2826849)
- 要解释清楚挺费劲,你就自己琢磨吧,如果其它C++/C真正大侠看不过眼,就请指教吧. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.8 13:40 (#2826891)
- 嘿,你看不懂就说看不懂,何必呢。不管怎样,他原文是说了 This overhead can be reduced by defining the constructor inline的吧?那我如果care性能到有病的程度,把constructor给Inline了不就得了吗,并不比C慢那 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:46 (#2826905)
- 1.construct have nothing to do with malloc.
2. c don't have construct at all.
and your logic is such a mess around this issue. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.8 13:48 (#2826909)
- 你真的是没看懂他那个例子。再看看,只要对比下C++的constructor和翻译到C的constructor就行了 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:54 (#2826927)
- 我根本就没看,以前就读过类似文章,你这篇,一看那调调就知道抄的了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.8 14:01 (#2826945)
- when you inline, how about inheritance. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.8 13:51 (#2826920)
- 没想过。但是至少我在C++里面可以象C一样,我用struct,不用继承。别忘了C++是C的超集 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 14:00 (#2826944)
- 我不懂C++,但至少我知道 this 是必须传入函数的,否则动态连编有可能就找不到object. -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.8 12:22 (#2826694)
- 哦,我糊涂了。如果是用C来实现,同样需要一个struct,函数需要显式地传入一个指向struct的指针。C里面这个指针是少不了的,不然同样找不到 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:36 (#2826878)
- new 分配内存不是编译器就可以优化的,可能是调用这个new,也可能调用那个new。 -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.8 12:23 (#2826698)
- 我没说优化new,请再看看 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:26 (#2826854)
- "唉...编译器的优化可以搞定的东西。" -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.8 13:35 (#2826877)
- 优化是说inline。他说的overhead不是在new上,是在函数调用上。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 13:37 (#2826882)
- 据我所知,C++的性能比汇编要快5倍,更别说C了。 99%的实时操作系统都是用c++写的。 -kramer(kramer); 2006.3.8 13:06 (#2826813)
- 没错,另据我所知,Microsoft的下一代XP的核心将用Basic编写,而下一代的GEFORCE 3D CPU的核心也将由Perl改写。。。 -taop(Bard-Tamer); 2006.3.8 13:17 (#2826840)
- 下一代XP?xp sp3? -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2006.3.8 14:04 (#2826953)
- no, 下一代XP叫YP.......你叫什么真啊~~:) -taop(Bard-Tamer); 2006.3.8 15:28 (#2827189)
- 很感兴趣的说,您能举几个例子吗? -zhbuser(我在干嘛); 2006.3.8 14:00 (#2826943)
- 我有个蠢问题:文中所说的C++编译器是用C写的还是汇编写的? -j30(猪狗不如); 2006.3.8 13:21 (#2826844)
- c++,c ,汇编都有吧 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.8 18:06 (#2827565)
- 我觉得文章是有道理的. c++慢在1.每次操作class需要寻址this 2. 多态的时候每次要寻址指针数组 3.使用try/catch. 不过牺牲这一点点的性能而能换来比C高很多扩展性和多态,我觉得是值得的 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.8 18:05 (#2827563)
- 1.如果用struct,那么函数也还是需要一个显式的指向struct的指针,对吧?2,3是有道理的,你可以说C++的有些特性会损失一些性能,但是不能因此说C比C++快,因为C++毕竟是C的超集,在C++里面我也可以不用多态不用继承不用try/catch -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.8 18:12 (#2827577)
- 如果你不用多态不用继承不用try/catch那么c++和c性能我感觉应该是差不多的。其实你用gcc一样可以编译c++的代码,只有需要用到stl和template的才用g++.例如我自己就从来不用try/catch,能用memcpy就不用std::string -google2002(Google); 2006.3.8 18:36 (#2827616)
- 如果你把C++当作C来用,性能当然是差不多.那就别给OO贴这么多金了.这个STL和TEMPLATE一上,C++好处和坏处就一块来了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.9 05:07 (#2828629)
- C++ 还可以嵌套汇编呢,这样扯没什么意思。OO的目的是什么,不是为了提高效率的。太追求效率,别人会看不懂你的程序 -rogerscanner(Roger); 2006.3.9 22:23 (#2830455)
- 本人最近做的一个项目, 由于硬件的内存很小 <2M, 用C写程序时连STAND LIBRARY都不能用.
LINUX KERNEL 的源代码也没有用C的标准库. -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.9 19:52 (#2830099)
- windows 也没有. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.9 20:02 (#2830122)
- 你这么热爱C, 喜欢挑战的人,还是玩FPGA更刺激. 介绍一个网站: http://www.jopdesign.com/ -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.9 20:22 (#2830149)
- 多年前就玩了,从硬件到软件都是自己做的。208脚呢! -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.9 22:51 (#2830540)
- 把10-20个RISC CPU放到一个百万GATES的核, 模拟大型计算机做并行计算的玩过吗?我朋友玩过, 我没有. -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.9 23:01 (#2830570)
- 百万GATES我用过,设计一个比一般CPU简单的东西.一下子就给我用完了.但是百万MACRO我就没有用过了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.10 00:01 (#2830700)
- 百万gates的FPGA的资源并没有真的是一百万,要少很多。很多小的CPU,放在百万门级的FPGA绰绰有余,比如Altera的NIOS。如果单单想用光FPGA的资源,很容易,几十行的代码就可以。另外,在FPGA里,什么是MACRO?这个我没有听说过。 -viv(viv); 2006.3.10 21:10 (#2832425)
- 中文叫做宏单元. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.10 23:11 (#2832756)
- 宏单元是CPLD结构里的东西。 -z24(Mnpl/St Paul); 2006.3.11 00:38 (#2832944)
- 我这个人有个贱毛病,很不喜欢用CODE LIBRARY,一般情况下,只要是力所能及,都是自己写CODE. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.11 11:38 (#2833413)
- 是不是很久没有接触HDL设计了?我还没有听说过FPGA设计用CODE LIBRARY的呢。我说的意思是,用verilog或者vhdl可以用很少的代码写出占用很多资源的逻辑来,比如,一个很宽的加法器。 -viv(viv); 2006.3.11 20:30 (#2834017)
- Sorry, flash disk less than 2m, memory is around 780k -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.9 20:12 (#2830135)
- sorry. I mean windows kernel. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.12 11:51 (#2834997)
- No. It totally depends on who writes the code and which compiler is used. -surfingman(Nick); 2006.3.11 12:36 (#2833502)
- C和C++都略知皮毛, 个人感觉C是程序员算好地址让机器去读数, 又快又省内存. OO是COMPILER, 自动生成地址, 慢而且不经济, 但是准确率高,程序简单. 象SmallTalk其实是很不错的OO语言,可惜超前了. 现在机器快了, 不在乎程序速度了. -guest3(guest); 2006.3.12 20:15 (#2835929)
- 如果学finance是不是需要考个CFA才好? -napoleon(nick); 2006.3.7 22:11 (#2825709)
- 还是半个故事有吸引力. -gingercat(寻寻觅觅); 2006.3.8 06:37 (#2826212)
- 不过不小心混了个CA... -speed(如风); 2006.3.8 06:54 (#2826220)
- 谢觉灌水 -napoleon(nick); 2006.3.8 14:34 (#2827047)
- 哪位朋友有ANSI C?可以借我用一下吗?想学习学习.谢谢. -peter8540(皮蛋); 2006.3.7 07:36 (#2823997)
- ANSI C 是一个standard, 不是一种compiler或者IDE。如果你想编写完全符合ANSI标准的C,可以在编译的时候加上相应的开关项就是了。比如用GCC就是gcc -ansi -o test test.c -canadiantire(轮胎-M.I.N.K.); 2006.3.7 12:28 (#2824488)
- 谢谢啊.我就是需要C的COMPILER或者Integrated devolpment environment.您知道哪里能搞到吗? -peter8540(皮蛋); 2006.3.7 17:32 (#2825096)
- turbo c 2.0 -ice(甲基苯丙胺); 2006.3.7 17:36 (#2825109)
- 太感谢了!我已经根据提示下载了.再次感谢. -peter8540(皮蛋); 2006.3.7 22:51 (#2825816)
- 能问问为啥要学C吗?还挺逆潮流的。没别的意思,好奇 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.7 23:21 (#2825898)
- Java and C# is easy to learn and changed frequently -google2002(Google); 2006.3.8 10:58 (#2826491)
- 老师教过BASIC,PASCAL,FORTRAN,COBOL,现在就是想从C开始自学,但愿学了以后有点用.. -peter8540(皮蛋); 2006.3.8 17:24 (#2827487)
- Borland C/C++ 55是免费的. -taop(Bard-Tamer); 2006.3.8 17:33 (#2827498)
- Is J2EE OO or NOT? -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.3.5 19:50 (892 bytes. #2821224)
- agreed -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 20:32 (#2821313)
- em, like AOP is not easy put in OO -maple2000(等待着夏天); 2006.3.5 22:28 (#2821536)
- 祖国的奸商真太有创意了,笑得我肚子疼,怎么不把这聪明才智干点正事呢?(zt) Pic Link -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.5 14:11 (#2820624)
- 这就是“汉芯”的关键技术。 -pigkiller(早起的虫子); 2006.3.6 22:03 (#2823555)
- 給“漢芯”磨片的超級民工找到了,原來是一家建築裝修公司,不知道什麽時候他們會把DSP的廣告撤下去,呵呵 Page Link -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.6 23:24 (#2823755)
- 一看CE 105C就是假的。。。 -noproblem(大可以); 2006.3.6 22:14 (#2823583)
- 祖国的奸商还是很敬业滴,电解电容有200C的,也的确有105C这个规格,我刚还去digikey查了一下,确实有。想起清朝兵工厂就发明了往炮弹里添沙子的伟大技术,96年祖国也给导弹装假弹头,呵呵 -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.6 22:31 (#2823616)
- 我的意思是CE Marking是不应该出现在Component上,CE的Product categories中应该没有Capacitor,很多大陆的生产厂不知道,但国外的厂商一目了然。。。 -noproblem(大可以); 2006.3.6 22:55 (#2823674)
- CE比較特別,是一個由廠商自己宣佈的很寬鬆的標誌,誰都可以自己宣佈符合CE標準,和UL、CSA等需要註冊實驗室認證的標誌不一樣。有沒有這個category還真不知道,剛剛google了一下,電容也可以用CE標誌 -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.6 23:13 (#2823716)
- SUCH MANUFACTURING COST IS TOO HIGH. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 00:04 (#2823850)
- DX们,有什么比较便宜又好的服务器HOSTING的公司,以前大侠给过一个,找不到BOOKMARK了 -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.4 20:02 (#2819359)
- 帮你顶一下 -swang106(高兴); 2006.3.5 10:28 (#2820154)
- 多谢,自己再来顶一下 -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.5 19:47 (#2821217)
- 记得有一个好象可以租多久后服务器归你的公司,大家/大侠 知道/指导下? -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.6 18:16 (#2823064)
- 有人知道吗? -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.8 14:50 (#2827086)
- it is so quite here now/ -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.13 23:21 (#2838374)
- I'm using this one. Many interesting features + huge bandwidth. It does have down time once in a while. But it won't be an issue for personal hostings. Page Link -z24(Mnpl/St Paul); 2006.3.13 23:41 (#2838415)
- are u using dedicated hosting or managed hosting -gzscott(笨鸟); 2006.3.14 00:04 (#2838443)
- LCD 和monitor, 那一个对眼睛有好处? -chenmoon(); 2006.3.3 23:40 (#2818243)
- 我感觉没任何区别,家里的笔记本和公司的Monitor看着都挺累 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.3.3 23:54 (#2818266)
- 平时多吃狗杞:泡茶或煮粥 -j9988(Jim); 2006.3.4 03:47 (#2818404)
- 好象是这样, LCD 刺眼, monitor 有射线. -chenmoon(); 2006.3.4 18:22 (#2819196)
- LCD is a kind of monitor. -001isbetter(001-is-better); 2006.3.11 20:20 (#2834004)
- 我以为这年头, 有知识没文化的人没有了, 我错了. -chenmoon(); 2006.3.12 17:30 (#2835612)
- 知道自己错了就好。:=P.只有lcd vs crt之分,头一回听说lcd vs monitor的分法 -realpangxie(匿名); 2006.3.12 17:52 (#2835652)
- try google with "LCD vs CRT" -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.16 23:49 (#2845172)
- crt -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.12 12:02 (#2835021)
- LCD可以调暗,CRT 显示色彩更逼真,常用Photoshop的喜欢后者 -lionheart(lionheart); 2006.3.12 17:44 (#2835637)
- 应该说,LCD和CRT的区别。。。 -111111(快乐老家); 2006.3.12 18:18 (#2835701)
- 问的就是这个意思,不是让你纠错,而是让你说说区别是什么 -lionheart(lionheart); 2006.3.12 18:21 (#2835710)
- 大家是不是都在用面向对象的编程方法? 感觉怎么样啊? -guoluworker(锅炉工); 2006.3.3 22:08 (40 bytes. #2818039)
- 这种活, 干久了, 人会傻掉的. 没意思. Coding machine 一个. -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.3.3 22:11 (#2818047)
- 呵呵. 干革命. -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.3.3 22:17 (#2818065)
- 来抢白人的饭碗, 叫他们也做一下穷鬼. -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.3.3 22:22 (#2818078)
- 这里这么热闹.有朋友能帮我搞个C的环境吗?想学习学习.谢谢了.各位前辈. -peter8540(皮蛋); 2006.3.7 17:35 (#2825105)
- 找小饭吧. 他有好几个平台. 他是高手 -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.3.7 17:39 (#2825114)
- 你装个visual c++6/2005就可以了 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 18:15 (#2825175)
- 学习 c 还用visual c++? 太年轻了。bordland turbo c 2.0 -yr2much(伟大的豪哥的哥); 2006.3.8 22:52 (#2828265)
- C++除了GUI外,我还没有看见很成功的.至于ENCAPSULATION, C也可以做得很好.JAVA的思路很好,可惜太慢,而且开放性有点让人怀疑.我一直把JAVA是脚本来看的.那些设计语言的,我真是觉得很久没有什么进步. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.4 01:34 (#2818357)
- 1.C++可以使用多态;2.C++可以用STL以及TEMPLATE,ACE类库支持. 就凭这这两点,对于绝大部分软件项目来说C++比纯C更合适 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.4 01:52 (#2818372)
- 就语言本身而言,VISUAL BASIC比什么都讨人喜欢.一个难学的语言,无论如何是不成功的. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.4 03:11 (#2818401)
- 呵呵,这句话用到软件设计真是再精辟不过了。 -ccloafer(梦游加拿大); 2006.3.4 10:17 (#2818557)
- 我可不觉得C++比C难多少。没有了STL,你自己用C要写很久才能写出个list/index -google2002(Google); 2006.3.6 01:56 (#2821860)
- list/index is such a piece of cake for C programmer. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.6 13:07 (#2822445)
- 这个就是开发效率的问题,你千辛万苦自己搞个普通的INDEX何必呢,性能估计也比不上STL,不MAKE SENSE. 再说LIST/MAP/MULTIMAP/VECTOR/QUEUE你有时间一个一个来IMPLEMENT? -google2002(Google); 2006.3.6 23:23 (#2823750)
- 千辛万苦? come on. read my message again. I am confident in my programming ability. My code is better than STL for my specific applcation for sure. And clearer because it is specific cut for my purpose. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 00:00 (#2823806)
- 自信的程序员太多太多,这么自信的不多见,呵呵 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.7 09:13 (#2824068)
- Using the time spent on the studying of STL, you can write it. For example, sometimes you have the source of some program, you still want to write a version of yourself. For closed source libraries, I really hate it. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.6 23:46 (#2823816)
- I also have my own version of index/list, which is to operate the virtual memory/paged memory allocated myself. However, in most cases STL works better and has less coding work. It only took me 2 days to learn STL. -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 00:04 (#2823849)
- which version of STL? Do you know most STL has bugs? Don't tell me there are no bugs in STL. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 00:31 (#2823874)
- I have used STL in g++2.9.6/3.2.3/3.4.3 on Sol6/7/8/9,Redhat7/8/9,Suse,UnitedLinux or Windows' STL . The STL bugs only appear in some special OS like HP-UX or exteneded version such as STLPort. -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 00:38 (#2823886)
- 任何程序都有可能存在bug。如果STL有的东西你不用,同样的功能你就需要自己实现或者用其他的库,不要说你自己实现或者别的实现就没有bug。实际上,STL经过千锤百炼,同样功能的程序中,bug一定会少于你自己写的代码的。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.7 09:11 (#2824067)
- 经过千锤百炼 IS MS WINDOWS, BUGS IS ALMOST COUNTLESS. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 10:48 (#2824223)
- windows一直在加新东西进去,除了名字还叫windows以外,什么都变了。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.7 11:24 (#2824315)
- win 98 is almost obsolete. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 11:25 (#2824320)
- 对啊,windows是个商业性的操作系统,微软靠不停地换代来赚钱,不停地推出新版本,这样的东西怎么能和STL相比呢 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.7 11:36 (#2824359)
- STL既然不加新东西, 又如何千锤百炼了?算了,不想再说了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 11:41 (#2824372)
- 我真怀疑你用过STL没有 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 11:54 (#2824401)
- STL,你是用它的观点.我是SUPPORT它的VIEWPOINT,STL总要在操作系统上运行吧,如果操作系统UPDATE了,有BUG了,用STL不就死翘翘了,办法吗?等UPDATE STL? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 13:05 (#2824562)
- 照你这说法你现在就别做程序员了,反正OS的BUG肯定影响你的程序,等哪一天完美无BUG的OS出来你再写程序吧。我已经开始怀疑你是否写过程序了 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 14:45 (#2824786)
- 凭什么说难学的语言就不成功呢?如果说是易学好用,VB是成功的。但就效率、性能、应用面而言,VB根本不值一提。有相当多的系统是VB根本实现不了或做不好的,比如操作系统、图形处理、大型游戏,等等。总的来说,VB只是个玩具而已。 -lovedriving(LoveDriving); 2006.3.7 23:35 (#2825939)
- 我觉得您可能是C方面的大拿,但是对OOP/Java这些东西知道的不深 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.4 02:56 (#2818399)
- 和匈奴打仗用骑兵,和南越国作战用山地步兵,和孙吴作战用水军。 -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 03:30 (#2818402)
- 军师错也! 和匈奴打仗该用藤甲兵砍马脚,和南越国作战该用神火营放火烧山,和孙吴作战就只能用推土机了. -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 12:52 (#2818785)
- 那不还是要采用不同的东东?:) -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 12:56 (#2818799)
- 关键是要用最合适的东东. -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 13:00 (#2818805)
- 这合适学问就大了,使你自己合适呢,还是适合于外部环境呢?,若敌军都几经OO了,你还ASM死抱着不放,对你自己是合适了,可放置于大环境来说就是不合适了。是不是这道理?:) -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 13:08 (#2818820)
- 神辫换成神枪, 东西换了, 神留着. -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 13:17 (#2818828)
- 说到我心眼里去了!一直想找一个在非gui平台用oo开发应用的人聊聊,问问他们是怎么建立对象的,至今没找到。 -aka(棒棒); 2006.3.4 10:11 (#2818549)
- 一个人应该用“他/她”。扣10分。 -ccloafer(梦游加拿大); 2006.3.4 10:21 (#2818564)
- 上帝,你是天才! -aka(棒棒); 2006.3.4 10:40 (#2818598)
- :) -choice(水中花); 2006.3.5 12:13 (#2820383)
- 我们TEAM主要开发UNIX下的分布式服务器,全部代码都用C++的,模板,类库,STL/ACE都用 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.6 01:55 (#2821858)
- 有谁00过一个BRANCH,一个STORE,一台ATM,一个CUSTOMER,一个商品,一个零件,一张信用卡?这些最MAKE SENSE的OBJECT? -aka(棒棒); 2006.3.6 20:40 (#2823319)
- OO里面de面向对象指的是面向role,不仅仅是客观世界的完全影射。所以branch在面向对象的世界里如果没有role 的responsibility就不认为是Object. -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.6 21:35 (#2823484)
- 我觉得在UNIX下开发分布式程序,每一个MESSAGE就是一个CLASS,我的程序主要就是怎样处理这个CLASS,和你说一个商品,一个零件没有任何区别。我最近写的一个UNIX服务器程序就用了52个C++类和模板 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.6 23:25 (#2823742)
- 我可以保证:你的程序的效率绝对不高!你的程序如果要一秒钟处理几K个消息,想象一下. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.6 23:51 (#2823830)
- 以前在国内写的C++网关程序,每秒处理2000条复杂数据(xx移动自己测出来的数据).我自己写过最快的C++程序是一个基于BDB的文件存储系统,在pc服务器上每秒可以插入1万多条200字节的数据 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 00:10 (#2823854)
- 2000条,消息有多少种呢?都是如何处理的? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 00:36 (#2823880)
- 一般UNIX程序员都会问程序分布在多少台服务器上而不会问多少个类,因为消息和CLASS个数并不会影响性能。不过我可以告诉你核心业务消息大概30多个,算上统计,SNMP,计费,数据追踪,信息过滤监控大概100-120种消息,用ThreadPool+MessageQueue处理 -google2002(Google); 2006.3.7 00:48 (#2823892)
- 才30多个,如果消息类别多的时候,你想OO,还要PEFORMANCE就不行了.你的经验估计没有这条.用理论想想吧.要不你写个DISPATCH MESSAGE的OO程序给我看看,我倒要见识一下了. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 08:39 (#2824032)
- 你的脾气很好,我其实早就想打住了.只是想说:这个DISPATCH我用C写过,嘿嘿,开始还想用ASM写了,其实性能影响很大. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 10:51 (#2824236)
- 2000条分布在多少台服务器? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.7 08:40 (#2824034)
- 不会吧。很多大的EMBEDDED SYSTEM都是OO DESIGN的。 -wade(blank slate); 2006.3.5 16:43 (#2820861)
- detail?? -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.6 13:05 (#2822438)
- 什么样的DETAIL呀?TELECOM的不少公司项目都是C++,OO DESIGN的。可能BOOTING
PART很少有C++的,但高一点的就是了。 -wade(blank slate); 2006.3.6 21:44 (#2823510)
- 楼上六窍皆通! -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 02:00 (#2818378)
- 人有七窍,通六余一,--一窍不通?:)你可够可以的,拐着弯的骂人:) -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 09:30 (#2818481)
- 如果写过很久面向过程的程序,这个弯确实挺难转的,我看过不少senior写的java程序脱不了面向过程的思维。相反现在的学生倒没这困难,他们一开始就从OOP学起。Thinking in Java/Thinking in C++挺适合熟悉面向过程的人,值得一读 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.4 00:26 (#2818310)
- senior != old,就是这道理。 -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 03:38 (#2818403)
- OOA/OOD/OOP的顺序很重要,另外oo需要有很长时间de公里,个人认为至少5年。 -frankwoo(柳五随风); 2006.3.4 02:10 (#2818383)
- 在1994年,当时我的导师问过我们几个学生什么是OO,他和面向过程的分析,设计,编程有什么不同。结论:从分析设计阶段就要改变思路, 否则OOP是累赘,摆设. -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.3.4 10:38 (#2818596)
- 说的这么好,不得不顶一下。 -aka(棒棒); 2006.3.4 10:44 (#2818601)
- 多谢,可惜不做编程很多年了。当初立志此生不再编,现在看老婆作J2EE, 手痒。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.3.4 11:55 (#2818713)
- J2EE从很多方面来说,应该是相当的不OO吧? DB OO了吗? EJB OO了吗? Servlet OO吗? 几年前开始,很多人就努力想把Web Tie OO 化一点, HTML OO了吗? 你OOOOOOOOOOOOOO了吗? -3amigos(三架马车); 2006.3.4 12:27 (#2818754)
- What is an "Object" - Everything. From analysis, design to implemeantation, if you have an "O" at heart, you can build OO even with Forth. -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.3.5 15:46 (#2820753)
- 不一定, OO 有时是事倍功半. 但是不懂OO也是不行滴. -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 02:19 (#2818389)
- 没错,OO有时候就是包着糖衣的毒药。 -guestagain(guest again); 2006.3.4 19:33 (#2819314)
- Form a long term view OO absolutly release a lot burden for programmer provided by it's extendablity. It's also more flexiable base on using delegation -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 19:42 (#2819325)
- Right! -choice(水中花); 2006.3.5 12:28 (#2820420)
- 说实在的,俺什么语言都不会,什么Business Knowleddge也没有. 至今也没搞明白为什么有人要请我. 我到底会什么? 我是谁? 我想干什么? 要往哪里去? 每天这些问题都在困扰着我. 想得头昏脑胀的时候就来这里灌水. -3amigos(三架马车); 2006.3.4 12:20 (#2818740)
- 没有电脑文凭,没受过正规训练,没有证书,没有正式的工作,没有理想,没有目标,没有人生,....., 我就一混混. -3amigos(三架马车); 2006.3.4 12:23 (#2818746)
- 老板娘看上你了 -jacky2001(beyond); 2006.3.4 19:24 (#2819291)
- 我认为程序员这种活迟早会转移到印度和中国去, 所以还是考虑回流或者转行. -hello2005(chinada); 2006.3.4 17:12 (#2819088)
- 如果你只是个人云亦云,不会独立思考的程序员. -500m(500M); 2006.3.4 18:10 (#2819176)
- Programming language doesn't change much since C became available. The key is memory management no matter it's functinal. procedual or OOP. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 19:21 (#2819281)
- On implementation level the main difference between C AND C++ are Vrtual Table and Dynamic Binding -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 19:23 (#2819290)
- Have a look on Bjarne Stroustrup - The C++ Programming Language and GO4 Design Pattern. I didn't see any books over them so far. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 19:25 (#2819292)
- Do not treat OO as something only happens in programming. It happens anyware if you're trying to do some abstract think. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 22:32 (#2819301)
- I can not agree more. -choice(水中花); 2006.3.5 12:29 (#2820423)
- Understanding on memeory will help you understand questions like why JAVA don't create object on stack but C++ can? What's the difference between call back and event drvien? Why java don't pick multi inheritance -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 19:37 (#2819321)
- good points -maple2000(等待着夏天); 2006.3.4 21:50 (#2819581)
- you really understand C/C++ -goodchoice(buff); 2006.3.4 21:30 (#2819533)
- From language aspects, there's no really OO Language or Functional Language. When we refer Java or C++ are OO Languages and C is functional language. It really means they have better support of OO Concepts -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 22:16 (#2819629)
- By direct memory control on memeory, implementing Virtual Table and Dynamic Binding, you can convert C into a simplified C++, which has a limited feather on polymophism, encapsulation and inheriance -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 22:21 (#2819637)
- You can see here. The OO is a concept which is not related what language you pick. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 22:23 (#2819645)
- I started from C and quickly changed to C++. I didn't do any java befor, but I didn't see any difficulties on picking up any new languages. My point is focuing on OO concept and memory instead of languages -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.4 22:31 (#2819659)
- 佩服, 有什么好的书或online book 关于 memory managemen 谢谢 -howcanido_helpme(howcanido); 2006.3.5 10:32 (#2820160)
- Sorry, I don't really have any recommandations here. The memory management scatter around into OS, compiler and programming language. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 10:57 (#2820206)
- u must be kidding ... -ra_95(小人*碎幻江南); 2006.3.6 23:41 (#2823801)
- Which part is the kidding part? -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.8 01:16 (#2826109)
- What a misleading statement? Did you ever hear about SmallTalk and Lisp? SmallTalk is a pure OO lanaguage and Lisp is a functional language. C is never a functiona language. Instead, it is a procedural language. -lovedriving(LoveDriving); 2006.3.7 23:39 (#2825951)
- Sorry, you are right. C is a procedural language. What's other misled statement? -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.8 01:15 (#2826106)
- One of the biggest mistakes in the computer science / technology history is that C++ was a totally mis-leading name. -wukongjj(菁菁悟空); 2006.3.5 16:22 (#2820828)
- It gave people an illusion is that if you know C, then it's easy to move on to C++. In fact, it is very hard, if it is not impossible. -wukongjj(菁菁悟空); 2006.3.5 16:23 (#2820830)
- For a senior C engineer, it takes him/her many years before he/she can claims he/she is now comfortable in OOP. -wukongjj(菁菁悟空); 2006.3.5 16:25 (#2820832)
- That explains, as indicated by other folks, though C++ is better than C, in reality there are more applications implemented using C rather than C++. -wukongjj(菁菁悟空); 2006.3.5 16:26 (#2820834)
- I can't agree you on this although this rumor ever be popular. This is only an excuse for the people who's not really master C and neither get a clear OO concept -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 16:39 (#2820855)
- In the real world, C and C++ are different roles. C is faster than C++ ON SYSSTEM LEVEL for the reason that C doesn't have any the runtime feathers which are very important to C++. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 16:42 (#2820859)
- C is faster than C++?你好像不知道C/C++都是要编译成目标码的?运行速度的快慢和编译器以及编译时的选项有关,和用C还是C++写成的有什么关系... -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 21:48 (#2821445)
- In the early days C++ is tranfered to C during compiling and in this operation C++ generate larger code. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:14 (#2821629)
- 我用的第一个C++编译器就是先编译到C的。假设一个程序a.cpp,编译到a.c,再编译到目标码。你能说a.c比a.cpp快吗? -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 23:24 (#2821648)
- I can't say that because they're identical on the higher leverl. It's the different situation than my assumption. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:38 (#2821687)
- so could you please explain your assumption? what do you think makes c++ slower than c? -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 23:56 (#2821726)
- I assume that the same code wittern in C and C++. Without any optimization, C++ will produce a larger object than C and concequently the machine code is larger and need more time to excute -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 00:01 (#2821737)
- first, larger code is not necessarily slower. second, in real world we DO enable optimization feature of compiler. -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.6 00:06 (#2821748)
- That's the difference between theriotical and practial. It already beyond the scope of our discussion. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 00:11 (#2821753)
- 当你说C比C++快的时候你到底说的是现实中还是理论上?现实中,我没看到任何证据显示C比C++快;理论上,我也没看到任何理由说C比C++快。如果你说C比C++快是你的“感觉”,那我没有任何意见。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.6 00:39 (#2821785)
- I want to keep this discussion professional. I only provide my opinion no matter it's correct or wrong. C++ produces larger object file is a fact. Please don't shoot anything personal. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 00:52 (#2821803)
- A larger-size machine code will lead to longer excution time? 您该不会不知道inline function吧...在programming里空间换时间时间换空间的做法很普遍,您怎么能得出大就会慢这样的结论呢 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.6 22:05 (#2823559)
- Context switch will slow down excution. Larger object needs longer time to load, it also cause larger footprint in the memory. It will finally slow down the excution. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.7 20:51 (#2825489)
- C++ has more hidden fields, constructor and destructor. constructor and destructor will be called during the excutiion.They become overhead during excution. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.7 20:52 (#2825492)
- Again, during discussion, please don't mention me.It doesn't help anything, Even we can't reach out on some point this discussion will benefit a lot of people who's interested in the process of interview. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.7 20:54 (#2825501)
- Assume you write a public object in C++ and a structure in C with the same fields. Any C++ object has hidden fields like run-time ID and reference counter and that makes the object file of C++ BIGGER than C class file -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 00:09 (#2821749)
- Compare 2 language and draw a conclution on which one is better without any condition are childish. There's no language better than another one. Do you think English is better than Chinese? -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 16:47 (#2820871)
- English和Chinese是平行的语言,但C和C++并不是平行的关系,后者是前者的超集。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 21:53 (#2821465)
- With new version of C++ compiler, it's not need to be transftered to C anymore -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:15 (#2821633)
- 不同的实现并不影响语言的特性。不管编译器怎么实现,C++都是C的超集,而不能是平行的关系 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 23:26 (#2821655)
- C++ is never to be designed to be a superset of C in purpose. Have a look on The C++ Programming Language written by Bjarne, who gives a lot of contributions of the invention of C++. It explains very clear in the book. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:33 (#2821675)
- 这个问题要看你怎么样看待,C++只是在很个别的feature上不是C的超集,但在更普通的意义上上C++确是C的超集。叫这个真儿没有意义,C++是C的超集这个说法是不严谨,但并不错。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.5 23:45 (#2821705)
- This is why a lot of people who wrote 5 or 6 yrs C programming but can transfter themselves to be a good C++ programmer. Concept is the key and all implementations are details. Details can never affect Concept -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:54 (#2821723)
- I make a revise here. In system programming level C++ can be treated as a superset to C. For general programming they're only connected on syntax, nothing else. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.5 23:58 (#2821727)
- 你扯太远了。我只想说,我们不能说英语好还是汉语好,但我们可以说,在一般意义上(不是绝对意义上),C++比C好。 -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.6 00:10 (#2821751)
- Can't agree on which one is better. It depends on different situations. I do agree that C++ has a better support on OO than C. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 00:15 (#2821759)
- 您的can't agree难道就无视条件吗?我的条件是in general -winterbear(Hibernate); 2006.3.6 11:58 (#2822292)
- What's the term of IN GENERAL? There's no such words in CS area except algorithm under the condition of considering distributed proboblity. -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 20:14 (#2823244)
- There's a word general-purpose programming which 's out of scope of this discussion -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 20:15 (#2823247)
- This is something called system call in operating system. It is as old as C and in fact part of C/unix from very beginning. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.6 23:48 (#2823821)
- 是吗,您牛呀,我主要是没学过操作系统等等,至于有多老我也不知道,我只是觉得这样使用接口是一种很有效的OO方法 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.3.7 02:59 (#2823938)
- Hopfully, this will benefit people who's going interview -simonqu(后悔); 2006.3.6 21:07 (#2823392)
- 高人这么多啊,敬仰中.我不会OO啊,总那里入手呢? -mike20030405(麦客); 2006.3.8 20:50 (#2827887)
- 这里有没有显示器的专家?请教一个问题。17”液晶显示器,每次开机打开面板上的开关时,屏幕上的显示只停留1秒钟就灭了,每次需要反复开多次,显示器才能开始正常工作。请问这是什么原因造成的? -getnew(多伦多村民); 2006.3.2 18:19 (#2815656)
- Americans are teaching RAT BRAIN to fly aircraft simulator. That is creative but pretty awful, although this is an old story. Page Link -kent932(Pilot); 2006.3.2 11:18 (#2814892)
- 请教: 网络领域中BSD(BSD operating system)是什么? 这和Cisco 产品一起提到的。 -oceanant(浪里跳); 2006.2.27 22:04 (#2810129)
- 盗版windows真是越来越难用了。。。。。 -aka(棒棒); 2006.2.27 19:49 (#2809830)
- 请教一个基本的问题: 计算机电源的输出线有红, 黄, 黑三色, 是不是黑色的是地线? 红,黄的输出各是多少电压? 谢谢. -waitingforyou(waitingforyou); 2006.2.27 09:54 (#2808764)
- yellow:+12V, red:+5V, black: GND -001isbetter(001-is-better); 2006.2.27 10:58 (#2808899)
- Thanks a lot. -waitingforyou(waitingforyou); 2006.2.27 12:27 (#2809090)
- 婚礼需要做一个图片加音乐和文字说明的东西介绍新郎新娘,推荐一个做这个东西的软件谢谢 -ch99(teatea); 2006.2.26 23:19 (#2808434)
- powerpoint. -jeffrey815(Smartiecat); 2006.2.26 23:22 (#2808440)
- 寻"现代信用卡管理' by 陈建 of Fair Isaac 谢谢了 -leegen00(rick); 2006.2.26 16:19 (#2807581)
- 谁能给推荐一款 8 Ports 的KVM switch.要稳定最好300块以下.(谢谢您了) -chinatiger(能曾金刚的生神); 2006.2.26 00:59 (#2806765)
- Ding! -chinatiger(能曾金刚的生神); 2006.2.26 13:02 (#2807292)
- check your PM -agincourt(百灵鸟); 2006.2.26 13:18 (#2807314)
- 我们一直用的Belkin OmniView KVM Switch, 觉得不错, 价钱不是太清楚 -online(小城之忙忙碌碌); 2006.2.26 13:23 (#2807330)
- 以前在国内用过,12port的KVM才2000人民币 -olddeer(DianDian); 2006.2.26 22:50 (#2808348)
- 前几天看到两个网友为了大型机的事情在吵. 但我一下子手头也拿不出什么资料来. 朋友帮忙,寄来了权威数据. 不敢一个人独享. 贴在此, 供参考. -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.2.25 17:31 (1749 bytes. #2805878)
- IT牛人系列:我的内存太小,只有128M,但我穷,买不起大内存,没辙,琢磨了半天,发现一个好办法,我把内存反过来插,嘿。嘀的一声自检通过,内存变成了821M的啦 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.2.24 13:55 (1419 bytes. #2803575)
- “我今天下午好不容易抓住一只老鼠,注入芯片把他弄成了一只鼠标。”看过无数遍,每次都笑得下巴酸。 -maer(马儿); 2006.2.24 14:01 (#2803589)
- 转贴:我所见过的最牛的IT高手 -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.2.24 11:15 (1188 bytes. #2803125)
- EGG现在在Telus -expertune(伪劣); 2006.2.24 11:19 (#2803135)
- "不久以前,我的Windows XP系统崩溃了" vs "前几年去了美国,杳无音讯....
" -lmx(流氓兔); 2006.2.24 11:23 (#2803144)
- 一个专业人士写的冷笑话而已嘛 -ningxin0809(雁影行洲); 2006.2.24 11:25 (#2803150)
- I see... I thought it was from 007.. -lmx(流氓兔); 2006.2.24 11:27 (#2803159)
- vs6 - msdev. -skywriting(天书); 2006.2.24 11:48 (#2803224)
- zip -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.2.24 12:20 (#2803324)
- 轮胎大哥误会了,据我所知那高手的按键速度达到每秒7067次,^_^ -binghongcha76(一只大猫); 2006.2.24 20:53 (#2804426)
- 本马差点跌落椅子~~ -maer(马儿); 2006.2.24 11:38 (#2803189)
- 白痴和大牛 -buma(buma); 2006.2.24 11:45 (1908 bytes. #2803215)
- 呵呵,你改编的能力很强啊 -peterspan(非常设计工作室); 2006.2.24 23:34 (#2804965)
- 做IT就是傻,熬了个通宵就得个表扬信. -pipibug(皮皮巴格golf); 2006.2.24 11:49 (#2803228)
- lol -mississauga(老市长 be The Best); 2006.2.24 17:22 (#2804049)
- 原来CD是这么烧的。好在不是DVD -hillman(山大王); 2006.2.24 18:58 (#2804184)
- LOL -flyingpig(天马行空); 2006.2.24 14:16 (#2803648)
- LOL -fatbean(Knock'em dead); 2006.2.24 23:04 (#2804861)
- 还是多伦多版本的。 -pingle(玫瑰扇子); 2006.2.25 09:25 (#2805246)
- 想到高人正在兹兹兹;0,1;0,1;0,1,无限敬仰,再牛还是要小心老太太。。。 -bluespirt(淙淙); 2006.2.27 15:23 (#2809444)
- 迄今为止,在这个帖子里发言的,无一个义人! -fishlonely(一人独钓一江秋); 2006.2.24 23:10 (#2804876)
- 老婆,快过来看上帝! -galactica(掂花狂笑); 2006.2.24 23:17 (#2804908)
- 11,连玩笑也看不懂,你LP嫁你真冤。 -fishlonely(一人独钓一江秋); 2006.2.24 23:20 (#2804917)
- 你真的不知道这台词?看来周星驰是白忙活了。 -galactica(掂花狂笑); 2006.2.24 23:30 (#2804955)
- 只有你和我是例外. -scottee(笑熬浆糊); 2006.2.24 23:19 (#2804913)
- 那是自然,哈哈哈 -fishlonely(一人独钓一江秋); 2006.2.24 23:22 (#2804928)
- 受高手启发,从今以后猛练兹兹兹;0,1;0,1;0,1.见到提款机就发兹兹兹,数0,1;0,1;0,1.班也不用上了... ... -notreal(别当真); 2006.2.26 00:00 (#2806641)
- haha, 想到高人正在输入机器码,无限敬仰, 汗。。。 -bluespirt(淙淙); 2006.2.27 15:08 (#2809424)
- 这算啥,如果我告诉你们我正在用办公室的微波炉上网刷ROLIA,你们不会太惊讶吧... -wzap(识食物者为俊杰); 2006.2.27 15:27 (#2809448)
- 哈哈,你每次说话都很惊人呐。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.2.27 15:29 (#2809450)
- 用微波炉发的帖子就是不一样! -eglington(eglington); 2006.2.27 16:12 (#2809526)
- 哈哈哈哈,你这个比他那个还让人笑破肚皮。 -x888(赶我走!去看书考证书); 2006.2.27 16:16 (#2809535)
- 从理论上说是可行的。。。 -noproblem(大可以); 2006.2.27 16:27 (#2809557)
- 我们那年头的高手是用小刀直接把操作系统刻在硬盘上,那时电话还没现在这么多。 -commerce(commerce); 2006.2.28 10:50 (#2810862)
- 我印象中的大牛是把DOS用打孔机在10卷卫生纸上敲进去的。 -max2000(max); 2006.2.28 11:23 (#2810907)
- 嗯,大牛原来是用马桶上网的 -avacao(吃草的大老虎白白胖胖); 2006.2.28 23:02 (#2812386)
- 大牛原来是用计算机上方便的. -iwantcar(EnjoyStudying); 2006.3.1 13:16 (#2813156)
- HI, everybody, i am mickey come from china. this is my first time to come to this forum. i am deal with foreign trade , and i hope to make more friends here. -mickeyam(mickey_ceramic); 2006.2.23 08:39 (#2800530)
- 你好,米老鼠。 -pigkiller(早起的虫子); 2006.2.23 15:49 (#2801422)
- Hi, mickey, i am from china too, and this is my N time to hang around this forum, and I hope to become your friend here. -handsomedevil(生命在于折腾); 2006.2.24 22:26 (#2804685)
- 当年有个小游戏叫“麻雀学园“,我和同事们打得很有兴致,原因呢,不用说大家也知道吧。这个游戏挺难,真正的麻坛高手也难以“卒业“。碰巧就在当时有个叫gb的小程序出现了。 -aka(棒棒); 2006.2.22 18:06 (247 bytes. #2799452)
- 有没有试过用SoftICE过关?:) -taop(Bard-Tamer); 2006.2.22 18:11 (#2799456)
- en, softice, game buster, game expert, 我也常用。有个游戏推箱子,打过一关看个小画片,改了什么东西,从头看到尾:-) -holdon(again); 2006.2.22 18:12 (#2799458)
- 当年一直以为“软体“就是色情的意思。好多年以后才知道原来就是台湾的软件。 -aka(棒棒); 2006.2.22 20:42 (#2799730)
- 当时我们几个是用 Debug 看代码,一个暑假破解了若干游戏 -diao_david(GBTS); 2006.2.22 20:46 (#2799744)
- wow, high hand! -wudeba(道可道); 2006.2.22 20:56 (#2799775)
- 给咱扫扫盲:4G是不是wireless的概念啊?和IP技术没啥关系吧?(别笑话我)以前有帖子说中国4Gimplementation比加拿大强1万倍,可是就是没说具体啥service是4G呢?哪位明白人“杂谈”一下,中加具体情况到底怎样?哪些服务是4G? -llrm(小陳); 2006.2.22 13:06 (#2798735)
- why my back button is disabled after a post back, i'm using asp.net 1.1.i searched a lot, not resolved yet?
can any one help me. -spaspa(小屁吖); 2006.2.22 11:20 (#2798475)
- IBM员工价笔记本 -tljswallow(tljswallow); 2006.2.22 09:38 (4503 bytes. #2798230)
- 有人知道RBC的COMPUTERIZED EXAM是如何的吗? -sxu491(天下无双); 2006.2.21 13:20 (85 bytes. #2796858)
- 有谁知道 刘大力 多思 MISC 吗?我跟他干过两年,极聪明的人,极其能说,很是佩服。前天看到复旦“中国芯”的丑闻,不由又想起当年在北京西山总参的经历。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.2.20 15:46 (10879 bytes. #2794569)
- 难说. 他的起点要是低一点说不定就发了.九十年代初搞电脑的都是单干,严援朝CCDOS白天练汇编,怕别人偷拷下班就把硬盘拆了搁军挎里背着. -findinghouse(不写错别字。4); 2006.2.20 16:39 (#2794690)
- Interesting, news to me, MISC (Liu's theory) is part of 中国科技大学's 理学院科技优势简介 Page Link -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.2.20 16:40 (#2794694)
- 大家对汉芯怎么看?
http://biz.163.com/06/0218/16/2A8OPOD100020QEE.html -mao(<>); 2006.2.20 16:26 (#2794668)
- this is a true 骗子 -mikesmith(老猫); 2006.2.20 16:45 (#2794703)
- Should be 上海交大. Not 复旦??? -steven99ca(Don); 2006.2.22 11:24 (#2798495)
- 朋友给了个USB Hub,没玩过,请问这东东需要驱动吗?我在Win 2K Adv和Win XP上都试了,都不行,谢谢回复 -dannyfu(Danny); 2006.2.18 22:59 (#2791586)
- 你原来的usb口能用吗?能用就不用装驱动。 -ccra(ccra); 2006.2.19 18:48 (#2792844)
- 原来能用,那估计这个东东是坏的了,谢谢 -dannyfu(Danny); 2006.2.19 18:55 (#2792859)
- 我开了BT下载之后(下载80K/S,上传20K/S),浏览网页变的非常非常慢,到底是我的WIRELESS ADAPTOR/ROUTER问题还是ISP那里做了限制? -google2002(Google); 2006.2.17 18:42 (#2789343)