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枫下论坛 /枫下论坛主坛 /工作学习/科技领域杂谈历史区第 4 页 -ROLIA.NET 相约加拿大网上社区

有奖征答活动!!!! --我家领导想请教一个CORE JAVA问题... -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.10 20:42 (133 bytes. #43205)

你先把奖励办法说出来. -guest:fang; 2001.4.10 21:06 (#43220)

破人！先说好奖什么再说！ -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.10 21:09 (#43224)

领导说了:奖品为找到工作时特搓一顿,最佳答案者做桌长. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.10 21:28 (#43243)

不要兜圈子。桌长有什么好处先？ -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.10 21:30 (#43246)

桌长可以自选座位,譬如......把自己安排在俩个漂亮的GG或MM中间. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.10 21:32 (#43249)

你的意思是坐在你和你领导之间？那太辛苦了，太危险了——要承担双重危险的说啊！ -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.10 21:35 (#43254)

You should implement -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.4.11 00:50 (747 bytes. #43503)

@@ lumlum原来是高手？！ -bingle(bingle); 2001.4.11 00:54 (#43507)

xixi... bonzer!!(mimicing an aussie).. xixi.. you will find out a lot more.. lumlum ^_^ -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.4.11 01:02 (#43511)

are you from Austrailia? I'm from Sydney -guest:guest; 2001.4.11 13:13 (#43794)

Me? no, I am in Canada right now.... -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.4.11 14:18 (#43828)

怎么没人问和Microsoft产品相关的问题？ -im_stone(im_stone); 2001.4.11 23:27 (#44126)

There are a lot of examples in any Java book, -guest:guest; 2001.4.11 13:00 (#43786)

感谢各位大虾。领导在你们的指导下，成功攻克第197个堡垒。抱拳于胸前，动俩动，说：敬礼！ -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.11 22:59 (#44082)

该说承让！ -beibei(beibei); 2001.4.11 23:01 (#44090)

〖精华〗 My 007 experience in this year!! -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.10 12:13 (1574 bytes. #43001)

残酷的资本主义市场经济。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.10 12:38 (#43008)

thanks, you are the first one who reply my post in this formu. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.10 12:42 (#43010)

don't forget me. hahaha -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.10 13:07 (#43021)

of course, You are the one I knew earlier than this forum!!!. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.10 13:09 (#43022)

Your English seems not very good. This may be why u were fired. So just study hard to improve ur English. -frank2001(mouse); 2001.4.11 01:08 (#43513)

thanks -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.11 11:26 (#43730)

Don't be annoyed too much by the comment. We are making progress in our language skills everyday, while your English is not a problem. Nobody speaks perfect English. -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.11 15:01 (#43851)

I know my disadvantage. and not only english, culture and background all these thing made me not competant as native guys. But comparing with one year ago(landing), I already be pround for my english progress. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.11 16:59 (#43912)

Now sometimes I even could make a joking with my co-worker, 1 year ago, for avoiding talking with them, everyday I low my head so deep in company. Now winter is almost over for me -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.11 17:00 (#43913)

good luck for you! who can speak good english. even some guy think himself speaks exerllent english, in canadian, you just speak like zhaobenshan in beijing -guest:yang; 2001.4.19 23:54 (#49365)

Go ahead. You will success. -zhoujun(不羁的风); 2001.5.7 09:50 (#62889)

It's not a big deal. You can find another job in no time if you lose your current job since you've been working in Canada for over one year. Good luck! -shu(shu); 2001.5.4 23:47 (#61101)

She's much better than you guy -canigia(风之子); 2001.5.11 14:39 (#67446)

Thank you for sharing the experience with us.I am very pessimistic [pesI5mIstIk] adj.悲观的, 厌世的 cheerless cynical gloomy joyless unhappy optimistic with my future.I even don't know whether I should go CA. -xin(小妮); 2001.5.9 07:12 (111 bytes. #64794)

Where do u work ? can I have the name ? -acezl(acezl); 2001.5.10 21:49 (#66724)

Just one question: Do you work as a database professional? thanks -ping(Laser); 2001.5.10 22:14 (#66739)

My above question is to uglyduck, thanks again. -ping(Laser); 2001.5.10 22:16 (#66741)

yes. I am a DBA -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.11 15:50 (#67506)

thanks for replying me. I just thought DBA must be stable on the job market. How come a company can lay off DBA? If you don't mind, could you explain that to me? ...... -ping(Laser); 2001.5.11 21:35 (107 bytes. #67721)

Coz that company I worked in , they transfer their strategy into marketing, they didn't develop on technical anymore. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.14 14:42 (282 bytes. #70290)

that is database developer/programmer/analyst job, they should not be called DBA. -guest:lili; 2001.5.14 19:13 (#70415)

heihei, but my title is DBA. and I don't use any coding language except T-SQL or PL/SQL -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.5.15 13:40 (#71398)

WJiang, Just read your essay on UML Pattern Language. -sailor(Sailor); 2001.4.9 17:28 (254 bytes. #42449)

谁知道TCL，教教俺，面试需要啊。恶补。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 16:54 (#42432)

teacher of Chinese language. haha -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.9 16:56 (33 bytes. #42433)

哈哈 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 21:01 (#42558)

终端控制语言，是电信方面的吗？ -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.9 16:59 (#42435)

I don't know, but try this url. I guess it's what you are looking for. Page Link -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.9 17:26 (#42446)

谢谢你们啊，不管怎么样，俺已经宣称用过，因为其他的条件俺基本满足，就这一个了。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 21:02 (#42559)

应该是这个，好象早些年喜欢用这个东西来写Script，甚至是CGI。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.9 21:12 (#42566)

TCL"tai cha le?!" ----Tcl (Tool Command Language). -coole(摇摇); 2001.4.9 21:11 (64 bytes. #42565)

It must be "Typical Chinese Language". haha! :-) -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001.4.9 21:14 (#42569)

tcl/tk is a script language for automatic test which is widely used in telecom company's verification. In fact ,the TCL language is quite similar to Basic ,very easy to learn, but it is more powerful. -wins(wins); 2001.4.9 22:23 (134 bytes. #42636)

我知道一些TCL，你指的是那种类basic语言的东东吧 -im_stone(im_stone); 2001.4.10 01:25 (#42732)

TCL王牌彩电？ -chao(coco); 2001.4.10 01:28 (#42734)

C++程序员找了很久，失败了多次，还没有找到工作的注意了。。。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 08:56 (212 bytes. #42282)

你是VC还是UNIX C -guest:; 2001.4.9 11:40 (#42335)

good idear, 我都不知道现在这般人要找什么样的人才了. -guest:fang; 2001.4.9 12:08 (#42344)

今天我一个朋友拿到了IBM的OFFER, IBM只给他PHONE INTERVIEW 了半小时而且他的tech水平很一般很一般,哎!这什么世道. -guest:fang; 2001.4.9 18:13 (#42463)

林子大了什么鸟位子都有。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.9 20:37 (#42549)

俺是unix c++，你呢？要不要交流？我告诉你，在危难时刻，保守和怕别人偷到自己经验只有在家里喝西北风，俺试不想这样了，开放性格的同志们快来。如果不相信俺，你说一个公司我告诉你一个公司也可以，等价交换啊。不要再等了。。。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 14:17 (#42375)

找到工作的同志们，把你们宝贵的曾经失败的经验或者成功的经验赐一点给俺吧。谢谢啦。。。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 14:20 (#42377)

看了你的几个帖子, 觉得你现在真的是太浮燥了. 虽然还没有找到工作, 但登陆一个多月就可以有许多面试已经是不错的成绩了, 许多人连电话还没有接到呢. 真的有很多人两三个月才有第一次面试. -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.9 14:32 (418 bytes. #42383)

不错，俺知道俺可能很浮躁，可是形式逼的阿。 -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.9 14:48 (#42385)

是啊，老感觉鸭子煮熟了，马上要到手了，可是飞了，问题是还不知道怎么飞的，你说可气不可气。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.9 15:28 (#42399)

不是煮熟的鸭子飞了，而是人家已经暗示你了，你自己没听懂，还在空欢喜，这是新移民的通病 -guest:; 2001.4.9 16:38 (#42418)

你说的有道理，咱还没习惯被别人委婉拒绝，下次知道了，OFFER不到手，什么都白说。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.9 16:51 (#42428)

看这个坛子上的帖子，多少人为等不到FN、面试、LP而着急，但着急有什么用？该来的自然会来。我落地八个多月后找到工作，总结经验只有四个字：水到渠成。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.9 15:40 (#42403)

谢谢你，就是相信你这句话才乐观到现在，不然，早水漫金山了。上次腐败的第二天就去mississauga一个AGENT面试，坐在地铁上都觉得自己快撑不住了，但后来哼了几首中文歌，好多了。其中包括真心英雄，自己都觉得悲壮。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.9 16:49 (#42426)

对，有情绪就到ROLIA来，让大伙出出主意，开导开导。保持好心情去面试。没有自信不会成功。 -beibei(beibei); 2001.4.9 17:28 (#42451)

前面加上“时来运转”。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.9 20:38 (#42550)

不宜。你这是被动式，我那是主动式。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.10 10:13 (#42939)

没有被动的机会，何来主动的把握？勤修苦练自强自信固不可少，可是等待机会的耐性和豁达亦不可缺。一鼓作气，再而衰，三而竭。认识到运气的作用，才能坚持不泄气。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.10 14:22 (#43064)

are u still working now? Contract or permanent? I see you posted at 14:00 which is allowde in your Company? -guest:pain; 2001.4.9 15:36 (#42402)

Yes, a permanent position. It's allowed in my company, if I could finish what I was told to in time. Although it's a very small company which I don't like, but I could have full freedom to do anything I want at any time. I appreciate this. -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.9 15:42 (#42406)

I got my first interview after 5 month I landed. -blackswan(uglyduck); 2001.4.10 11:43 (#42988)

请教：登陆后离加一年以上，返加证到期前准备再赴加，想带一台笔记电脑回去，不知得交多少税？毕竟国内熟了，知道到哪儿买，软件也好弄。 -guest:请教; 2001.4.8 23:41 (#42150)

关于再入境交税的事，请指教 -guest:请教; 2001.4.8 23:56 (#42157)

打印机的线单独卖，真黑呀！ -canada(canada); 2001.4.8 22:07 (472 bytes. #42105)

这边配件就是这个价，呵呵，没办法的事。墨盒可以自己灌，效果也可以。不过用时间长了对打印机喷头危害大。如果是Canon的还好，要是EPSON就别这么做。我的EPSON 640就是毁在这个上面 -bxy(西岭); 2001.4.8 22:24 (#42112)

It is said that there are some ink which product by other factory for sale now. Each of printer has it's own 墨盒 relatively. did everyone use it? again IF someone want buy printer, HP has good effect, but the ink of HP is the most expensive -keqinfan(kevin); 2001.4.8 23:07 (#42128)

我准备带点去倒买倒卖,嘿嘿 :-) -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.4.8 22:57 (#42121)

新移民请注意。So people who will come CA should take some small thing, I mean some attachment, such as 电话线，cable line, 网线，打应线，( USB 接口 better), IDE line for harddisc. and other thing -keqinfan(kevin); 2001.4.8 23:00 (#42123)

agree! I spent 6 bucks for a phone cable, and it didn't work! Fxxx! -yellow(yellow); 2001.4.9 01:53 (#42196)

我买的激光打印机,三星5100，去年2月$299，一个鼓可以打6000-8000张，换一个$100. 长期来看使用费用便宜的多（墨盒即使不用，一两个月也要干掉），打印速度快，效果好。显示器也要买最好的。以上是我的经验 -eglington(eglington); 2001.4.8 23:15 (#42135)

does your laser printer print the colour picture? -keqinfan(kevin); 2001.4.8 23:30 (#42146)

I'm sure it can't! -yellow(yellow); 2001.4.9 02:02 (#42204)

但是彩色就没辙啊 -bxy(西岭); 2001.4.9 02:01 (#42203)

Where can I get visio and visual sourcesafe? Thanks -canada(canada); 2001.4.8 00:02 (#41828)

which version? -guest:zxc; 2001.4.8 01:42 (#41892)

You should find Visual Sourcesafe in Visual Studio. I have these discs, if you want, call me. I will check with my colleague if we have visio in our company. -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.8 19:50 (#42046)

thanks a lot! -canada(canada); 2001.4.8 20:43 (#42071)

〖精华〗 Hi,Jabber,Do you think market of java is shrinking now? -zlx(steven); 2001.4.7 10:56 (570 bytes. #41574)

Dear Steven, Java is still alive. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.7 12:30 (1648 bytes. #41615)

I agree with you and I just worry about the near future of java if the speed of java donot improve. -zlx(steven); 2001.4.8 12:44 (#41990)

Java is still very hot, especially in J2EE. The only reason you can't find a job is you don't have working experience here. Keep trying and good luck. -shu(shu); 2001.4.24 15:16 (#52575)

Shu: do u work as a java developer in Canada NOW ? I will be applying for a java related job soon , can you give me some suggestions on that ? Thank you in adance . -acezl(acezl); 2001.4.27 23:20 (#55801)

sure, send me an email so that i can contact you personally. -shu(shu); 2001.4.29 19:51 (#57240)

〖精华〗微软的 .Net 平台还未出师就遭遇尴尬。(转载) -guest:guest; 2001.4.6 02:12 (913 bytes. #41094)

揭开思科中国区总裁杜家滨其买办资产阶级的真面目（转贴) -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.5 14:49 (996 bytes. #40901)

居然有这种事，美国佬太没有商业道德了。查出来不赔死他！不用怕！就我所知我们军方的网络是不和INTERNET互连的，网上那些不过是宣传网站！我有过和军方合作的经验。另外！。。。 -whitetiger(whitetiger); 2001.4.5 18:59 (268 bytes. #40931)

I also ever touched Huawei, it's very similar to Cisco. But does not support EIGRP, BGP, etc. -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.5 21:02 (#40947)

EIGRP belong to cisco, hUAWEI'S NEW PRODUCT START SUPPORTTING bgp4. -whitetiger(whitetiger); 2001.4.5 22:23 (#40973)

这个事情很正常。国内有人炒作无极限战争（好像这个名字？），说未来可以通过网络打击美国，真可笑。 -aabb(爱吃水草的鱼); 2001.4.6 14:58 (294 bytes. #41293)

所谓的“超限战”是也。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.6 15:09 (#41302)

So we must develope wireless internet access, ha haa haaa! :-) -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001.4.6 15:11 (#41304)

And sent a super strong UPS to the Yankees as gift!!!! -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.6 15:20 (#41314)

Got it! Very smart idea! :-) -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001.4.6 15:40 (#41320)

〖精华〗 Visual Basic宣告死亡 -guest:f; 2001.4.5 02:11 (5547 bytes. #40693)

That is a good news for java programmer! -major(pine); 2001.4.5 02:38 (#40698)

A lot of good points in this article. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.5 08:05 (#40738)

I agree the point. But how about the fate of visual C++? -thestar(ray); 2001.4.5 08:09 (#40739)

heihei, let's wait to see! A lot people said C++ would be thrown into garbage can when java made its debut, now what happen? -guest:VB; 2001.4.5 20:04 (#40934)

C/C++ will be there. Java is not good for everything -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.5 20:31 (#40940)

Could u list the advantage that C++ is over Java? I wanna know that -guest:JavaGeek; 2001.4.7 22:19 (#41758)

Sorry. I cannot give a full list...But I can give you an example: If you need to write a device driver, you probably need to use C instead of Java -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.8 17:15 (#42024)

幸运的是COM+仍然支持现有的 -5460(BigDesk); 2001.4.7 18:08 (28 bytes. #41650)

看不出你是VB爱好者，是sun在台湾的sales吧？ -maladuona(马拉多纳); 2001.4.7 23:45 (#41811)

请教C++中“implicit argument”是什么意思？ -saint(西西先生); 2001.4.4 22:10 (#40577)

Is it "this" pointer? -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.5 20:33 (#40941)

Let me try... -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.4.5 22:35 (88 bytes. #40982)

In my mind, it seems like only last argument is implicit argument in C++. right? -guest:Ralph; 2001.4.6 00:07 (#41048)

Agree with jabber -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.4.6 08:01 (#41133)

U r wrong! implicit argument is the last argument in argument list. -guest:Palph; 2001.4.6 23:49 (#41496)

A few more words about this question -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.7 19:03 (1125 bytes. #41659)

请教诸位IT大虾，我该用什么职业申请？：专业自动控制，这几年主要是维护通讯和网络，较熟悉Cisco设备（26xx,36xx,72xx)，但职业表没有网络工程师，若用SYSTEM ANALYSE，却又对Unix和NT不甚了解，用Hardware,好象又和网络关系不大。请大虾们指点迷津，不胜感激。 -guest:革命输出; 2001.4.4 11:20 (#40387)

这个问题我也问过，好像加拿大没有搞网络的哥们。 -honglus(humleo); 2001.4.9 23:25 (#42668)

用CCIE查一下，告诉你了CISCO没戏 -guest:; 2001.4.9 23:31 (#42675)

有啊，比如whitetiger, 找不到工作，没什么情绪。移民申请时的职位无所谓的，software engineer/ system analyst, 都可以。关键是过来后有没有职位。 -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.9 23:41 (#42684)

谁说没有？我就是搞网络的，我在中国搞了6年多，在这也快一年的电信网络设计 -yunzhang(yunflier); 2001.4.9 23:45 (#42688)

这就对了，当然以什么职位申请对以后的工作没有影响，但申请时是至关重要的。试问，这位大哥是以什么职位申请的 -honglus(humleo); 2001.4.12 04:45 (#44275)

可以EE申请，里面有telecom engineer,network engineer 等，见职业分类表,url。我在电信工作，也准备搞网络,以EE申请。 Page Link -solar(solar); 2001.4.12 05:41 (#44283)

I am refused by the company. I feel badly! -guest:aaa; 2001.4.4 00:54 (517 bytes. #40264)

Take care. -camwood(camwood); 2001.4.4 01:19 (#40266)

You should show them the site you have developed if it is a ecommence and you are really an expert on it. -guest:blackswan; 2001.4.7 01:07 (#41521)

I think you should improve your English. You will find a job soon. Good luck. -daqiao(Bill); 2001.4.7 08:33 (#41551)

You confused me. Why didn't you just show them the website? -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 14:17 (#41638)

Is there water in your head? I know u just study Java in canada. IF u had an interview, could u give the interviewee the website? -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 20:35 (126 bytes. #41677)

oops! -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 20:44 (#41680)

there are many typing errors. Sorry about that. But what do u mean? -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 20:47 (#41682)

I meant I had no "water in my head". -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 20:51 (#41685)

No water in ur head? -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 21:03 (413 bytes. #41695)

Dear Friend, I suggest you keep practicing your English... -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.8 20:16 (645 bytes. #41654)

Well Jabber, I just can not REJECT you and your nice suggestions. :))) though i am not the poor guy... Can I use 'reject' for both people and things? -sisi(丝路花雨); 2001.4.7 19:56 (#41665)

Jabber, I feel so pity for you. -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 20:44 (424 bytes. #41681)

Thank you very much. I will do my best to learn from you. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.7 22:01 (#41746)

Jabber, you don't impress me by technical skills nor by English ability. You impress me by personality. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 22:05 (#41749)

Jabber, you needn't say that.That's only a careless neglect. I can bet that most of the friends here, including me, cannot tell the first mistake in aaa's subject so proficiently as you did. -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.8 03:37 (#41912)

I cannot understand what u mean that " friend will blame u" in your post -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 20:57 (649 bytes. #41688)

By the way, my suggestions 1) and 2) are sort of cheating, which some friends hate very much. I don't want to be a target. Thank you again for lessoning me. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.8 21:16 (#42085)

The second mistake in aaa's subject. "I feel bad." not "I feel badly". 2 sentences, 2 mistakes. Then aaa should know why so many pepole suggest you to improve your English? -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.7 21:37 (#41728)

I think guest 'aaa' or 'bbb' is our former 'Poeny'. Believe or not. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 20:49 (#41684)

who is Poeny? -guest:bbb; 2001.4.7 20:58 (#41691)

I think so -beibei(beibei); 2001.4.7 20:59 (#41692)

Wjiang has a good imagination. I also feel that a little bit likely. -laoyou(老油); 2001.4.7 21:44 (#41736)

Ooops! Really?! I remembered Poeny is still in BJ...Anyway, the 'aaa' or 'bbb', just let it bee... -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.4.7 21:45 (#41738)

一丘之貉 -guest:管他四遂; 2001.4.7 22:20 (#41759)

'aaa'和 'bbb'同志，你的英文可以提高的地方比较多，我真诚的认为你要花更多的时间去进一步提高它。网址一事，我确实不能给你更好的建议。祝你成功！ -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.7 21:26 (#41714)

同意！ -hearts(hearts); 2001.4.7 21:38 (#41732)

Thanks! I admit I should improve my english more. Sorry my acidulated comments. If I get a job, I will go back again! Thank for all the friend who cares for others. -guest:aaa; 2001.4.7 22:15 (#41754)

RECTIFICATION: Thanks! I admit I should improve my english more. Sorry for my acidulated comments. If I get a job, I will go back again! Thank for all the friends who care for others -guest:aaa; 2001.4.7 22:17 (#41757)

subject closed. -cucumber(黄瓜); 2001.4.7 22:28 (#41761)

Try this website: http://www.zhao1zhao.com/ -hai530(hai); 2001.4.17 13:13 (200 bytes. #47603)

ok, error-finding -guest:guest; 2001.4.18 22:18 (330 bytes. #48612)

想起一件事来，本地华人有没有自己的网站？ -guest:; 2001.4.3 23:19 (#40237)

rolia.com Page Link -sailor(Sailor); 2001.4.4 10:09 (#40349)

各位高人，哪位知道哪里有免费的c#编译器下载。谢谢。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.4.3 20:53 (#40152)

Please go to www.borland.com and download a C++ Builder. In addition, you may search for GNU's C++ compiler on the web. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.3 20:56 (#40154)

Jabber, It's C# not C++. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.4.3 21:03 (#40155)

Haha....Well, I think one can download it from any web sites other than Microsoft's. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.3 21:26 (#40168)

Microsoft claims that C# will be included in the next generation of the Visual Studio® development system, to be available in beta release later in 2000. You can download beta version of .NET framework from Microsoft. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.4.3 21:19 (#40163)

I have down,but I do not know how to use it. and I saw another editor is better ,but I am asked pay for it. -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.4.3 21:33 (#40169)

Your can uncompress(install) the sample. and there is a simple IDE tool just like BDK1.1 in Java. It is just a Beta Edition. I think it will become better and better. I was tould that Someone had got the Visual Studio 7.0 is a full IDE. -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.4.4 01:46 (#40275)

Check this web site. Page Link -albxu(Yukon); 2001.4.3 21:34 (#40170)

I have download from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp? from "Product Name" select "Visual Studio.NET Beta" -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.4.3 23:56 (18 bytes. #40254)

Jabber, Would you please let me know the top 3 university in DC area on Computer Science. I try to find some information. Thanks a lot -ping(Laser); 2001.4.2 21:46 (#39868)

We should talk about the DC area instead of Washington DC only. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.3 18:07 (500 bytes. #40144)

Thank you very much, Jabber... -ping(Laser); 2001.4.4 15:29 (269 bytes. #40480)

Jadder, Where is my yesterday post about my interview? -guest:Joseph; 2001.4.4 18:12 (#40520)

Hi, I have no idea about your posting. I delete dirty postings only. -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.4 18:54 (#40524)

It is impossible. Yesterday, I post one artical about my interview at about 00:30(April. 4). After posting, I did see it on ur list, but today, I cannot find it. Why?Plz check it for me. -guest:Joseph; 2001.4.4 22:40 (#40591)

It seems to be weird. As you posted your article, I was in the dream.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.5 20:34 (#40942)

请过来人指点，如果我的户口和档案在HomeTown，而我毕业后一直在广州工作。申请移民会不会有困难，比如说，工作经历公正方面。因为档案中不可能记录我的工作经历。谢谢！ -honglus(humleo); 2001.4.2 21:23 (#39857)

No problem.What you need to do is: Get the certificate of your work experice from the HR of your company,then go to do the notarization.The archives has no use,The embarry dosen't see it. -per(per); 2001.4.3 07:15 (#39960)

请问有没有正在搞Data Warehouse and Business Intelligence的同志，现在这个领域的工作状况如何？本人马上要介入了，不知情景怎么样，敬请告之。另外，Websphere呢？ -per(per); 2001.4.2 02:35 (#39600)

使劲搞! 只会前途无量. 目前真正有这方面经验的人并不多. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.4.2 09:29 (#39673)

Ok,thanks a lot. -per(per); 2001.4.3 06:56 (#39957)

One of my friend are in this field when he is in China. He told me that all agents told him it's much popular in US. Now, he is working as an Oracle developer. (So, the difference between US and Canada is huge, right?) -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.2 10:24 (#39690)

I don't think the diffirence between Ca and usa is very huge.But I am not sure. Maybe only God knows. :--) -per(per); 2001.4.3 07:01 (#39958)

Visual Basic 在加拿大的应用程度和就业前景如何？我感觉工作的机会很少，是这样吗？ -guest:vb; 2001.4.1 01:18 (#39378)

没人回这篇吗？我也想知道。。。。 -im_stone(im_stone); 2001.4.1 22:47 (#39524)

few chances. Check job-hunting websites. -eglington(eglington); 2001.4.1 22:56 (#39532)

VB is just a language. Don't just tell others you know that language! You should tell them you know the technologies related with that. -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.2 10:52 (476 bytes. #39702)

啥是真正的程序员？ -heater(肠子); 2001.4.18 00:37 (403 bytes. #48025)

都没戏 -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.4.18 07:58 (162 bytes. #48128)

都有戏。但是，简历上不能这么写，面试时不能这么说。事实上，你也不要直接找工作，而应上一些短训班，比如JAVA班什么的（现在不知还是不是JAVA），针对市场学一些既时知识，聪明些，不会有问题。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.18 09:02 (#48145)

都有戏. 但其他的未必. 我面试现在的工作时, 我就告诉他们我没用过JAVA, 但自己看过,估计有两个星期学习就可以了. 我得到的回答是: 你离开原来的公司要提前两星期通知,正好用来学学JAVA了. -bloor(bloor); 2001.4.18 09:55 (#48186)

你说的也对。事实上，雇人时，有的公司只看你现在会什么，而有的公司主要看你有什么潜力。不一样。一言难尽。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.4.18 10:38 (#48220)

大公司看你有什么潜力，小公司只看你现在会什么 -guest:; 2001.4.18 10:53 (#48231)

For the real designer(next level programmer), there is no "programming language". -numnum(numnum); 2001.4.18 10:26 (215 bytes. #48210)

英雄所见雷同。 -heater(肠子); 2001.4.19 00:33 (#48696)

关于这一点我一直很困惑，公司到底要求什么？从我这几次得面试看，好象就是看你是否会哪种语言，在哪种平台上开发过，那管你软件工程思想，经验等等，在这种语言和平台上没经验，免谈。我怎么碰不到那种看你素质和经验的公司。郁闷呀。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.4.18 10:39 (#48221)

Miss Fox, if you have played on one of Unix platforms, you may declare you have worked on Sun Solaris, HP UX, IBM AIX, Red Hat LInux....Well, if I say more, I will be lynched by... -jabber(jabber); 2001.4.18 13:16 (#48320)

我是VB爱好者！ -5460(BigDesk); 2001.4.20 00:45 (33 bytes. #49405)

if u also know asp, just submit your resume to me, my company just hire two chinese in this month, by the way , it is halifax -metoo(MeToo); 2001.4.22 11:07 (#50826)

各位：我现在是搞VB,asp 开发的， c++有一点基础。现在经济不景气，工作难找，想学点东西。不知道是学习c++开发COM呢，还是学习JAVA呢，请各位出点注意。谢谢！ -guest:guest; 2001.3.31 23:48 (#39348)

我正在办移民，2000年7月FN，雅思已经考完了，估计2002年才能办好去TORONTO。本人计算机专业毕业5年经验，VFP, PB,VB,LOTUS NOTS都开发过系统，1年前也做过一个JAVA的数据库应用，现在正在... -brother_yx(马萨罗); 2001.4.4 01:32 (356 bytes. #40270)

Plz listen to me -guest:Ralph; 2001.4.4 23:08 (2545 bytes. #40607)

我对唯技术论调一直不一为然，其实他的情况还可以，主要看运气，个人心理素质（敢吹，能吹），比如LOTUS NOTE还可以，就说我在中国干了LOTUS NOTE的项目很多， -guest:吹JAVA是不行了; 2001.4.4 23:22 (#40619)

Job=Skills+Personality+Luck+Blowout? -guest:Ralph; 2001.4.4 23:40 (#40625)

. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.4.4 23:12 (#40608)

Nothing? -guest:Ralph; 2001.4.4 23:17 (#40615)

I suggese u to study Java -guest:Ralph; 2001.4.4 23:16 (179 bytes. #40612)

美国高科技以及网络公司大幅裁员使成千上万的外国雇员陷入困境。 -guest:BBC; 2001.3.31 20:38 (770 bytes. #39299)

没人看的懂这意味着什么吗？ -guest:; 2001.3.31 22:48 (#39323)

赫赫，因为大家都懂所以也就用不着再说什么了。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.31 22:59 (#39326)

意味着暴力和动乱！！！ -whitetiger(whitetiger); 2001.3.31 23:00 (#39327)

那到不会，中国人什么都能干在加拿大不就是这样吗？ -guest:; 2001.3.31 23:04 (#39328)

Any website to find some C++ questions to practice for Interview? -guest:C++; 2001.3.30 20:11 (#39028)

News about www.brainbench.com -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.30 12:06 (256 bytes. #38946)

Oh, really? I got a certificate from it too...They mail it to my home in china... -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.3.30 13:53 (#38963)

HI, I hope you did not pay for your certificates... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.30 16:50 (637 bytes. #38992)

国内college计算机专业，现已移民多伦多近一年。请教各位是上当地的college,还是申请计算机本科？申请的一般步骤？需要准备哪些材料？一定要考托福吗？申请学生贷款要具备哪些条件？现在申请学生贷款困难吗？谢谢。 -guest:dsfds; 2001.3.30 01:06 (#38725)

How the Proposed Budget Affects the U.S. Government’s IT Vendors -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.29 11:13 (3297 bytes. #38425)

Nortel will laid off another 5000 employee, every IT guy ,take care. -wins(wins); 2001.3.27 19:00 (#37770)

那里来的消息？ -guest:; 2001.3.27 19:12 (#37772)

Nortel Networks to chop 5,000 more jobs, issues new revenue warning -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.27 19:20 (5135 bytes. #37773)

Stupid nortel deserves this, I have been waiting for this moment for quite a while. -guest:anti-nortel; 2001.3.27 19:30 (608 bytes. #37775)

you really got that point! -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.27 19:33 (#37777)

Though I agree with you 100%, I think we had better not use sensitive words. It is hard to say whether any friends in this forum will become victims -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.27 19:50 (#37781)

agree -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.27 19:53 (#37783)

One of my friend got a 100K job from Nortel last Oct. 3 months after he landed. No idea what's going on with him now. -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.27 20:51 (#37816)

I am still with Nortel , it seems no news about that in our branch. What ever it was all story, I mean all Network company got fever last year, Nortel as well. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.27 22:07 (750 bytes. #37863)

You will be fine. Your solid background is a garantee for you to stay in the market -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.27 22:15 (#37866)

Thanks, wjiang, I don't worry about it at all, since the more chopped off, the healthy the nortel will be, and the more confident gained from stockholder. the Nortel guys just think it nothing more than normal here. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.28 00:14 (261 bytes. #37927)

Notel 要裁的好像是移动电话分部吧。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.3.27 22:15 (#37865)

〖精华〗 I just did a job reference for a friend..... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.27 14:31 (1302 bytes. #37692)

Just say thanks to all friends for your soothing and encouragements---I have got a new assignment. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.27 12:30 (172 bytes. #37648)

Take care -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.27 12:32 (#37649)

It seems to me 'take care' means sth else than good wish. Do people say "take care' to you everyday? If so you really have to -guest:take care; 2001.3.27 13:56 (#37673)

In my understanding of "take care", it is for good wish. I don't think you are right. -guest:guest; 2001.3.27 14:06 (#37678)

I agree with you. -hotpot(麻辣烫); 2001.3.27 14:08 (#37680)

"Take care" is "duo(1) bao(3) zhong(3) " in Chinese. It is usually used as people need to say "good-bye". One may also say "take good care". -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.27 14:16 (#37684)

Thank you for your kind comments. Take care. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.27 14:20 (#37686)

Congratulations! Enjoy your new assignment. ^_^ -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.3.27 12:32 (#37650)

Oh man, you made it. And you made it so soon that I am sure everybody must be surprised. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.27 12:55 (#37655)

Congratulations! -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.3.27 13:18 (#37664)

It's so nice. Congratulations! -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.27 14:03 (#37676)

Great! -sailor(Sailor); 2001.3.27 14:13 (#37682)

Congratulations! -canada(canada); 2001.3.27 14:31 (#37691)

Warmest congratulations! Thanks for sharing with us the good news. We feel proud of you. Good luck! -guest:BBM; 2001.3.27 20:54 (#37818)

Congratulations ! good to be informed. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.28 00:29 (#37934)

Wonderful! Good luck! -hearts(hearts); 2001.3.28 07:45 (#37995)

Congratuations! 好人一生平安。 -mvs(os/390); 2001.3.28 09:26 (#38018)

Wish you a good future. -chx(北极); 2001.3.29 01:12 (#38322)

Windows has a long way to go. -mvs(os/390); 2001.4.1 07:32 (1127 bytes. #39396)

A trivial job interview question: Are you comfortable with Windows? Or, have you ever worked on the Windows operating system? -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.26 22:07 (417 bytes. #37399)

最近大家找JAVA工作有什么感受，我发现现在发简历都没有人回 -guest:; 2001.3.26 19:21 (#37334)

连说把你的简历存到档案里都懒的写了 -guest:; 2001.3.26 19:23 (#37335)

调查一下其他人是不是也是这样？我一月分发的时候至少还回E-mail.其实也是按几个按钮的事，现在是不是要回的太多了，按按钮都闲麻烦？ -guest:; 2001.3.26 22:12 (#37403)

按钮？按什么钮？呵呵，99.9%的回信都是系统自动回复的。通通是垃圾！不过也有例外，有某公司居然在半个月后给偶一封很正式的mail(not email)，仅仅是通知偶收到简历，呵呵，害得偶以为是offer:) -aabb(爱吃水草的鱼); 2001.4.1 18:14 (#39456)

我过去收到的多数是几天后和回信不是自动的 -guest:; 2001.4.1 18:19 (#39458)

这年头还在搞Java？？? 真是 -guest:顶风作案; 2001.3.26 21:08 (#37371)

不是各个方向都萎缩，不只是JAVA呀？为什么就不能找JAVA？ -guest:; 2001.3.26 21:16 (#37375)

一只股票如果涨过头的话，要跌也会跌过头. -guest:股友; 2001.3.26 22:04 (#37398)

Very, very good point! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.26 22:15 (#37406)

其实我发现很多新移民不适合JAVA，JAVA还处在高速发展期，新的东西很多即使找到工作很可能因为英语水平不好花很多时间看资料或被公司抛弃。现在短训班学的只能应付一时的需要 -guest:; 2001.3.26 22:23 (#37412)

I am one of guys who start learning Java now....and I still think Java is the good way to go. -ping(Laser); 2001.3.29 22:22 (#38636)

Because dot-com's are dying, it is not easy to get Java jobs now... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.26 21:55 (319 bytes. #37396)

真的吗？连美国都这样？太不可想象了，现在多数学校都在教JAVA，这么多学生和新来的学JAVA的怎么办？ -guest:; 2001.3.26 21:59 (#37397)

Schools need to train students in programming and Java is a perfect choice. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.26 22:14 (403 bytes. #37405)

But, they focus on OO methodology and algorithm. -guest:; 2001.3.26 22:17 (#37409)

Schools just want to have business and make money. As long as they can get money, they will accept anyone and encourage to study any thing. You're not that stupid. Right? -jesus(jesus); 2001.4.4 11:58 (#40422)

I would say that Java is just a language....... -ping(Laser); 2001.3.29 22:19 (214 bytes. #38635)

You have a clear mind. Wish you good luck -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.30 04:42 (#38812)

思科总裁称美经济将持续放缓,且有扩大风险 -guest:CISCO; 2001.3.26 00:47 (791 bytes. #37137)

这里的IT朋友们，我是搞我网络的（Cisco,unix,database）广州。CCPE无此职位，怎么办？，有成功经验的请告诉我， -honglus(humleo); 2001.3.25 21:57 (#37088)

IT好象不用管CCPE的说…… -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.3.25 21:59 (#37090)

对啊，这里的IT通常以programmer或system analyst申请，不需要ccpe，你看自己靠哪儿近就往哪儿靠 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.26 00:51 (#37139)

system analyst还接近点，不过还是有点心虚。尽管搞过两年PB.那位前辈的情况和我类似,且Make it .请多指教 -honglus(humleo); 2001.3.26 03:41 (#37174)

不用心虚，那个不重要，要是实在觉得不踏实，报程序员好了。其实这两者在申请移民的时候没有什么区别，只要是IT就好。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.3.26 11:31 (#37228)

请问我们准备5月份去多伦多，想从国内带电脑过去，但听说加拿大用110伏电压，想问一下在多伦多能否买到110伏转220伏的稳压电源？ -zhaohy(baby); 2001.3.23 20:34 (#36515)

台式机背后的电源可以在110V和220V之间选，笔记本的变压器一般都是全球通用。所以不用操这个心。 -bxy(西岭); 2001.3.23 20:45 (#36518)

thank you.可是我的电源不带这种可选电源。另外我还有传真机、无绳电话等，这些都需要更换电源，如果能买到，我就全带去。 -zhaohy(baby); 2001.3.24 09:20 (#36665)

买倒是买的到，不过看你的情况是要大功率的，那就会很贵的。以前有同学买过一个100W的，效果奇差。如果可以，你还不如在国内把计算机上的电源换了，很便宜的。 -bxy(西岭); 2001.3.24 12:59 (#36701)

thank you very much. -zhaohy(baby); 2001.3.24 20:32 (#36765)

〖精华〗 Few new projects, few openings, no interviews! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.23 12:15 (1894 bytes. #36367)

Your post here is my must read. I could always take the advantage of you. It's my lucky to know a guy like you here. The worst thing for you is I (and some others here) learn a lot from you FREELY. Take care. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.23 12:24 (#36368)

Do what we could do now, then wait. Something happen in a certain time but now. The situation would be changed soon. Take it easy. -coffee(coffee); 2001.3.24 01:05 (#36632)

hi! could anybody kindly tell me how about the job opportunities for a female programmer? I know something about vc++ and sql server but with no practical experience. hope to get ur help! thanks! -erinca(erinca); 2001.3.22 07:23 (#35868)

When you're applying a job the employer does not even know your gender, age & race other than guessing from your name and experience. A lof of females are working as programmers in Canada. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.22 11:05 (88 bytes. #35939)

在中国，计算机应用技术分为网络与并行计算、计算机辅助设计、图形图像处理、计算机通信等专业，在加拿大是否也是分为这几个专业？哪个专业更好找工作？谢谢指教！ -benmao(笨猫); 2001.3.21 10:13 (#35528)

请问，有关sgi的好找工作吗 -guest:adele; 2001.3.21 01:26 (#35427)

It's said there are many co-op chances in Toronto. Can anyone talk about co-op more? Where can I get the co-op? Your help is greatly appreciated. -howru(How are you?); 2001.3.20 21:58 (#35292)

我没有亲身经历，不能乱说。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.20 23:02 (#35363)

Generally to say, Co-op is for the students who are in the last year or before the last year to help them get hands-on skills. If you're not student you can get experience by Volunteer. -cyt(cyt); 2001.3.21 17:39 (#35639)

Thank you. Then, Where can I get the volunteer in Software Field? I don't think volunteers like babysitter or taking care of senior make sense. tks. -howru(How are you?); 2001.3.21 21:06 (#35698)

去Skills for Change，那里有帮你找 co-op 工作的，专门针对有专业技术的新移民。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.21 23:01 (#35763)

Thank you Rollor. Would you please give me the address or WebSite or e-mail or phone number or the normal name of Skills For Change? Is it a bureau of Human Resource or some other agents? tks. -howru(How are you?); 2001.3.22 08:43 (#35882)

http://www.skillsforchange.org，找 Employment Assistance Services (EAS) Page Link -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.22 09:06 (#35893)

不全对。新移民也有上Co-op的。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.21 22:59 (#35761)

提议: 能否交流一下在工作中自己最感得心应手的事和最感觉累的事. 我的经验是与同事们一起午餐, 很难说得上话, 有些事听也不明白. 吃完总有不消化的感觉. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 21:08 (#35258)

我也是最怕与外国同事一起吃饭,他们聊的都是与中国的文化完全不同的东西,有时发现他们对中国一知半解,但是很难解释. -wins(wins); 2001.3.20 21:30 (88 bytes. #35273)

漫漫来，不要急。正常的。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.20 21:32 (#35276)

不过跟印度籍或其他亚洲籍的同事倒是容易沟通.而且我发现印度移民的总体职位都比中国移民要高,他们在it行业的人数也不少.看来中国在高科技方面不一定能够比印度先进. -wins(wins); 2001.3.20 21:42 (#35280)

印度人语言好，来的早，学校里的教授好多都是印度人。 -guest:; 2001.3.20 21:46 (#35282)

很多南亚裔的专业知识面较窄. 优点是做事循规蹈矩, 且善于汇报和交流, 因此提升机会多. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 21:50 (#35287)

FED降息0。5，NASDQ跌破1999 -guest:熊; 2001.3.20 15:52 (#35167)

FED降息0。5，NASDQ跌破1900 -guest:熊; 2001.3.20 15:54 (#35170)

DOW下9800 -guest:cnn; 2001.3.20 16:06 (#35176)

What exactly are those high-techs leading? -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.20 13:54 (651 bytes. #35112)

Aha! Much ado about nothing! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.20 14:00 (#35114)

两个经济学家 -guest:; 2001.3.20 14:08 (457 bytes. #35119)

More than that, they pay great tax to the government. They make great businesses in service area (eat shit.) -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 14:23 (#35126)

Hahaha... I like the story. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.20 14:24 (#35128)

Questions: does the ink fall on to the paper? does the carbon stick to the paper? Who holds the paper when you're writing? -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 14:03 (#35116)

Since we suddenly get interested in English ... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.20 09:14 (368 bytes. #35018)

Funny. But seems this is typically Singlish (Singapore) or Inglish ( India) pronouciation, not Chinglish . -daqiao(Bill); 2001.3.20 09:22 (#35021)

The Chinese may say "I'm serty." I've not heard a Chinese with this accent. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 09:26 (#35024)

test nickname ;) -bxy(西岭); 2001.3.20 01:27 (#34930)

求助：谁知道支持Windows 2000(英文版)的五笔输入法的下载地址？ -agincourt(爱静阁); 2001.3.20 00:44 (#34915)

OFFICE XP有个中文语言包，装了后就有了。下面那个网页里面有一堆五笔输入法，自己试一试吧，俺不用五笔 ;) Page Link -bxy(西龄); 2001.3.20 01:24 (#34929)

MCSE,MCSD又如何,微软的认证在这里没太大用了 -guest:流浪; 2001.3.19 17:53 (#34743)

不知要说多少遍, 证书仅仅是一张纸而已.关键是如何说服用人单位,让人家相信只花一块钱, 你可以帮他干出十块钱的活儿. 证书有什么用? 擦屁股还嫌硬. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.19 19:00 (#34757)

话糙理不糙！ -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.19 22:15 (#34808)

我有二十张这种嫌硬的纸，要消费掉它们可不容易。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.19 22:26 (#34823)

小时候没有受过良好的教育，毛片儿没怎么玩过，不知道这些硬纸做毛片儿行不行。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.19 22:32 (#34825)

想问一句，您老为啥改名了？ -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.19 22:49 (#34837)

想起太湖水来，哈拉子止不住地往下流。问问 Yellow ，你就知道了。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.19 23:21 (#34854)

小时候还算受过良好的教育, 但一直到二十几岁了才看了毛片.哎..乡下的教育就是不行...... -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.19 23:28 (#34864)

此毛片非彼毛片也。我只知道北方的小孩子常玩，就是一张硬纸片，上边一点如来佛、阿童木、变形兽什么的。两人先比大小，大的先拍，拍翻过来就赢了。有没有行家给讲讲，俺也没玩过。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.19 23:35 (#34871)

讲得很地道呀，怎么没玩儿过？记得一大张要裁成36张，或者更多。最初的时候如来佛是最大的，No.1，后来毛片界机构臃肿，如来佛排到第三世界去了。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.3.20 01:48 (#34937)

光会说有什么用，老外凭什么相信你，没有证书就没有入门证，老外连机会都不会给你，更听不到你的长篇大论！ -guest:心; 2001.3.19 22:18 (#34812)

证书说有用也有用,说无用也无用,入门根本不是凭证书,不要自己拿不到面试的机会就认为老外一定要看本地经验.我是一张证书都没有,offer都拿几个. -wins(wins); 2001.3.19 22:28 (#34824)

offer人人都有，关键是中看还得中用 -guest:心; 2001.3.19 22:43 (#34833)

在提高自己业务水平的同时, 以考证书作为努力的方向是对的. 有了证书就觉得了不起, 一时没有工作就怀才不遇, 怨天尤人就不对了. 这有一个市场的需求问题和如何包装推销自己的过程. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.19 22:46 (#34835)

好听的话谁都会说,可是真的碰钉子的时候,你还能这么洒脱吗？ -guest:心; 2001.3.20 16:03 (#35175)

汤同志也没有别的意思，我觉得他也是在把自己的经验和感受同大家share，并希望能对别人有所帮助。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.20 16:20 (#35180)

If you could got so many offers, you won't give so much complaint now. -wins(wins); 2001.3.20 16:41 (#35182)

钉子谁没碰过？牢骚谁不会发？每个人都有不如意的时候。看你如何面对了。就在半个小时前，我老板开了个会，给几乎每个人发了一封包装精美，热情洋溢的信。 -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.20 17:29 (178 bytes. #35185)

I am so sorry to hear this. Take good care of yourself, and Good Luck! -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.20 17:42 (#35186)

Sorry about that. For your confidence and work experience, I though you will find another job sooner or later. Wish u luck. -wins(wins); 2001.3.20 18:18 (#35190)

Sorry to hear that. But never mind, I think you are strong both technically and mentally. You will find a better job soon. Good luck!! -daqiao(Bill); 2001.3.20 18:46 (#35195)

Hope you bring us good news soon. Good luck. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.20 20:09 (#35218)

I am very sorry to hear about that. But I think you will be able to take it easily and find a better one very quickly. Just want to remind you that you are not alone. You have so many friends here. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.20 20:23 (#35226)

Sorry to hear that news. Take it easy man, you'll be get a better one soon, that's for sure. And do you remember that I wanna challange you basketball. NOw spring is here, time to play! -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.20 20:30 (#35230)

趁机给自己放个小假，修整一下，然后再战江湖。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.3.20 20:36 (#35235)

汤兄, 一方面为你惋惜,一方面为你高兴,也许今天就是你辉煌未来的起点! -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.20 21:47 (#35283)

Thanks guys. Althought I don't need those comfort at all, you guys' concern has been really appreciated. Don't worry about me. I know how to face these hard time. Mmnnn.. Maybe it is not hard time for me at all. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.20 22:20 (490 bytes. #35316)

"Mmnnn"...意味深长. 对了，这时候可以考虑MM问题了。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.20 22:44 (#35340)

哈哈！这下子你可以当个全职的娘子军政委了。欢迎回到人民的怀抱。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.20 22:14 (#35310)

好啊,你什么时候给我下offer. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.20 22:29 (#35321)

我的炊事班长的 offer 还不知道什么时候到呢。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.20 22:34 (#35327)

到了两个月了,工作没有找到,该如何面对? -guest:流浪; 2001.3.19 17:51 (69 bytes. #34740)

你的英语水平，技术水平多高，竟敢在现在这种环境下说这个？ -guest:; 2001.3.19 17:54 (#34744)

我水平不高,可是MCSE,MCSD对我来说小菜可又如何? -guest:流浪; 2001.3.19 18:01 (#34746)

现在高人多的很你不过只有证书而已，我的一个朋友VC/VB极熟光作过的大项目名字就可以写两张简历，就是英语太差，他现在正在印刷厂打7/H的工 -guest:现在这些人出国都出疯; 2001.3.19 18:25 (#34750)

英语固然是个重要的问题,可是以前在国内的经验需要有人认可才可以呀 -guest:流浪; 2001.3.19 18:27 (#34751)

这不是大问题，他的项目里有些和这里需要的相近就可以，你要把它说清楚给业内人士听，加拿大人不是傻子，因为他的水平确实很高 -guest:; 2001.3.19 18:31 (#34753)

help! how to read *.ps.z zip file? -ranli(lili); 2001.3.19 17:09 (#34727)

*.ps -- goshtview, *.z -- winzip, *,zip -- winzip or gzip -fenghe(EricHe); 2001.3.19 23:39 (#34875)

*.ps should be postscript file? -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.19 23:53 (#34885)

correct answer. -guest:; 2001.3.20 11:45 (#35071)

Hi! Thanks every body! My question is how to unzip the file by use of the winzip? Is there any tool integrated in the winzip? *.ps file could be read by GSview. -ranli(lili); 2001.3.20 21:16 (#35264)

looks like taht -guest:guest; 2001.3.20 21:48 (225 bytes. #35285)

Is this a IT 杂谈 or an English topic? xixi. -guest:guest; 2001.3.20 22:16 (#35312)

thanks! Howevre I know it is ok by use of winzip if it is integrated some tools, I forget it. -ranli(lili); 2001.3.20 23:11 (#35370)

我觉得现在的IT行业有点象以前的汽车行业中国的彩电行业，都曾经辉煌，虽然世界上还有很多人没有汽车，中国还有很多人没有彩电，但目前的市场已经饱和，无法象过去那样高速增长，只能和其他行业同步 -guest:; 2001.3.19 11:13 (52 bytes. #34646)

not yet -guest:; 2001.3.19 13:05 (#34670)

说说你的理由 -guest:; 2001.3.19 15:59 (#34712)

同意，不过只是暂时的饱和，后劲应该很大。如果有什么划时代的产品……明天就是辉煌了 -bxy(西龄); 2001.3.19 17:28 (17 bytes. #34732)

可不可以说当今的IT行业已经走到尽头，其他行业在自身没有多大发展的情况下（汽车业在萎缩）不可能无条件的把钱给IT赚，IT需要新的能够真正提高生产力的产品出现才能翻身，可是突破点在哪里？ -guest:; 2001.3.19 17:51 (#34741)

硬件。阿基米德不是说过：给我一个支点，我可以撬动地球。人什么都想的出来，但是没有硬件还是没辙。 -bxy(西龄); 2001.3.19 18:10 (#34748)

在可预见的将来会有什么硬件产品出现，现在这些搞硬件的公司也在跌裁人 -guest:; 2001.3.19 18:54 (#34755)

这个世界就靠一两种硬件发展的吗？我可不这样想。 -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.19 23:52 (#34884)

同意！ -bxy(西岭); 2001.3.20 02:29 (#34944)

网络和PC的发展显然对高科技发展推动巨大 -guest:; 2001.3.20 02:38 (#34946)

一百年前，很多人认为科学已经走到了尽头，99%的东西已经被发现了。爱因斯坦发现了相对论以后... ... -bingle(bingle); 2001.3.20 02:47 (#34952)

科学突破也不是几年的事，说不定下一个热点是生物工程 -guest:; 2001.3.20 02:49 (#34953)

个人观点：下一个重大突破在基于生物技术的计算机。 -bingle(bingle); 2001.3.20 02:53 (#34954)

以前也讨论过这个问题，不过后来就没什么动静了？你有什么新消息吗？ -bxy(西岭); 2001.3.20 03:04 (#34958)

Regarding Jabber's gender -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.19 08:56 (1169 bytes. #34596)

英语，英语，还是英语！希望找到工作和闯过语言关的朋友多多指点。 -guest:help; 2001.3.19 00:56 (1449 bytes. #34489)

in my opinion, the best way to improve ur english is to recite as many articles as possible, and try to make some english-speaking friends. better luck! -erinca(erinca); 2001.3.19 07:16 (#34571)

不光是英语本身问题，还有对背景的了解问题。建议你在听新闻之前或之后，阅读一下有关新闻报道，不认识的关键词查查词典。晚上的一小时英语电视，如果以学英语为目的，应录下来每天看重复的内容，直到基本懂（看懂或听懂）了为止。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.19 08:57 (#34597)

不知道你的单词量怎么样？如果单词量太小，听说读写的基础就没有了。而且学单词是要靠大量突击学才有效果。细水长流，往往学的不如忘的快。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.19 08:58 (#34599)

In principle, I am not qualified to respond to your postings because I am on bench -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.19 09:14 (683 bytes. #34605)

非常正确，每日写一段英文，很有益处。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.19 09:23 (#34609)

The most important thing of learning Engilsh, I believe, is that one should think using English. -daqiao(Bill); 2001.3.19 10:13 (1114 bytes. #34624)

Thinking in English can begin from very simple things, like the sky is blue and the birds are singing. I'm hungry now what should be my dinner? -cyt(cyt); 2001.3.19 17:41 (#34736)

I am very apreciate to all friends here. Your advice are very importaint to me. Thank you very much. -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.4.4 01:34 (#40271)

最重要的是学习方法，不同层次的人有不同的学习方法，关键是要找到适合自己的。 -camwood(camwood); 2001.4.4 01:43 (#40273)

大家好，我96年毕业以来一直从事unix的系统管理（sco unix和linux)，现在自修solaris(参加培训，准备考证书），但也听说在加获得这一职位比较困难，所以利用零散时间自修java，请各位前辈给我一些建议，谢谢。（我将于7月初赴加） -guest:dongs88; 2001.3.18 23:01 (#34420)

我劝你最后选准一个目标。 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.19 00:40 (150 bytes. #34474)

谢谢yellow,我现在对你的劝告很赞同。你的意思是如果英语过关，找到一分system admin 的职位对新移民是可以的了？ -dongs88(leo); 2001.3.19 01:08 (#34498)

当然可以啦！如果广告说这工作不对新移民的话，你打可以告他歧视 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.19 02:01 (#34519)

考个sun的认证会有用吗？yellow -dongs88(leo); 2001.3.19 03:18 (#34537)

我想肯定要比MCSE有用的多。 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.19 10:27 (#34629)

Oracle的认证也很不错，就是太难了：（ -bxy(西龄); 2001.3.19 12:01 (#34656)

Sun is going to shrink like novell. Be prepared. -guest:; 2001.3.19 15:32 (#34708)

sun is totally different from novel, novel will be gone, sun will still be hot -guest:; 2001.3.20 15:49 (#35159)

For the time being, System Admin is still hot, not sure after fall. Seems like employer like to hire systm admin in Spring. Anyway you need time to get used to the environment and language, esp. job searching skills. -cyt(cyt); 2001.3.19 13:14 (#34672)

thank u for your advice for me, cyt. i want to ask u to give me some recommendation . -dongs88(leo); 2001.3.19 22:21 (171 bytes. #34818)

What you're familiar with and interested in should be your best choice. Any position has opportunity. Just think which one is harder to get experience. Wat you need to care is that System Administrator ask for higher language skills than programmer. -cyt(cyt); 2001.3.20 12:57 (147 bytes. #35091)

Java就别弄了，没有项目背景自己弄，没有什么用处，总不成过来以后再去编简历吧。建议一定要找机会摆弄SUN的机器，这里不会有人把业务放在X86上跑的，而且这里面试的人喜欢问他自己在工作中碰到的问题，你不熟悉点机器的话，容易碰钉。 -pasu(InTheSky); 2001.3.19 22:51 (#34839)

Altough I have worked as a UNIX engineer, I applied for immigration at programer.I want to know whether employer will ask me to show my landing paper which said i woked as a programer in China.What can i do? -dongs88(leo); 2001.3.21 04:06 (#35468)

这种要求比较离谱啊, faint! -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.3.21 06:49 (#35490)

one of my classmates applied as CP and now he work as a system administrator in Canada now. Don't worry about it . -flashback(flashback); 2001.3.21 07:14 (#35494)

thank you for your answer, flashback.Your answer made me disburdened, which I think helped me a lot. Could you answer me one more question? -dongs88(leo); 2001.3.21 22:28 (214 bytes. #35733)

Everybody help me! 谢谢！！！ -xiaotang(xiaotang); 2001.3.18 22:12 (294 bytes. #34400)

I bought one in China(zhong guan chun) at RMB170. It is realy difficult to find in China too and it is very expensive according to Chinese Standard. Hope my experience can make you feel comfortable. -tsinghua(tsinghua); 2001.3.18 22:25 (#34408)

thank you so much! yes, I feel more comfortable! -xiaotang(xiaotang); 2001.3.18 22:44 (#34416)

anybody can help? -xiaotang(xiaotang); 2001.3.19 09:50 (#34615)

我有多的，你要的话可以送给你，不过我29号才到 -checkme(checkme); 2001.3.20 01:11 (#34926)

oh, you'r so kind! Thank you very much! My phone call is 416-358-5358. If anything I can help, let me know -xiaotang(xiaotang); 2001.3.20 23:36 (#35387)

这次IT行业的整体暴跌是前所未有的，到底NSDQ底部在那里？这是一次次调整还是说明IT行业的高发展期已过？将进入一个平稳的发展阶段？（毕竟世界上其他行业也要发展IT不能当饭吃，当车开，当房子住） -guest:; 2001.3.18 21:39 (#34378)

How good is your Java basics? -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.18 09:24 (80 bytes. #34258)

Dear sir, do you happen to know where can I take EJB exam free? -howru(How are you?); 2001.3.18 20:01 (#34342)

Since March 1, 2001, no more free EJB test at www.brainbench.com. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.18 22:47 (#34417)

I took once, I got top 2 score in Ontario, canada (last year) -uid(miracle); 2001.3.18 20:08 (#34347)

I might be the bottom 2 of Canada. -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.18 20:45 (#34358)

hehe, 那个最后一名一定是我了。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001.3.18 21:38 (#34377)

俺是java棒槌,都不敢参加啊 :( -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.3.18 23:05 (#34423)

File serving/sharing service -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.16 14:52 (182 bytes. #33865)

c or c++ -guest:; 2001.3.17 22:41 (#34184)

What's this for? I'm lost. -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.19 16:51 (#34721)

help me,jabber!Thank you very much! -forever(kp); 2001.3.15 08:09 (365 bytes. #33373)

The structure of a for-loop -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.15 08:23 (407 bytes. #33374)

关于netzero40个小时的限制是不是只是针对账号来的，如果是这样的话，那我同时申请7、8个账号，一个用完了再用另外一个，反正他的pop server and smtp server都是一样的。我已经申请了第二个账号，用上了，有什么最新进展再向各位汇报。 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.14 10:36 (#33098)

They check the telephone number (caller id) you use to dial the netzero service. So, it is useless to apply another account, and it will not help. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.14 10:45 (#33104)

啊啊，气死我了。还有其他办法嘛？哪里可以下载3web的？ -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.14 11:05 (#33115)

The only choice is to use the mad cow (funcow), or buy a 3web CD. Juno seems doesn't work very well (they may require your credit no). -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.14 11:10 (#33118)

can it be used on windows 2000? i tried it but didn't work. -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.14 21:02 (#33260)

How to buy a 3Web CD? Does it has the view bar? -tutu(lazy tutu); 2001.3.14 21:12 (#33264)

1)you can buy one in a computer shop. 2) yes. -rolia(rolia); 2001.3.14 22:36 (#33299)

可是FUNCOW在中文WINDOWS98和中文WINDOWS NT下显示的是乱字符，并且不支持WINDOWS 2000，你是咋么解决这个问题的？ -linus(linus); 2001.3.14 23:23 (#33317)

You may use the freeisp software www.juno.com It can working under windows 2000. good luck -guest:hi; 2001.3.15 04:46 (#33351)

seemed it's working, thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks a lot!!! -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.15 05:54 (#33354)

BUt the juno may charge you some additional phone charge as it said. So it is not totally free. I know NetZero and FunCow are free, no local access fee need. -linus(linus); 2001.3.15 08:43 (#33379)

Hi, when I download Juno it check me whether I'm in US and asked me to fill in address and seletc state, I can not find Ontario so I can not download it , how do you guys cope this problem? -guest:Kenny; 2001.3.16 16:36 (#33915)

Motorola Inc., the world's No. 2 cellphone manufacturer behind Nokia, said Tuesday it will trim 7,000 more jobs in its personal communications sector, -guest:cnn; 2001.3.13 11:08 (113 bytes. #32789)

请问各位前辈，在国内先考MCSD或SUN的认证JAVA程序员是否有意义，考哪个更好？ -ada123(殷殷); 2001.3.13 09:29 (#32757)

If you are already a programmer, I advise you learn some edge-cutting new technology. Certificates do not help you a lot. By the way, improve your English speaking and listening. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 16:59 (#32895)

Thank you very much! -ada123(殷殷); 2001.3.14 00:44 (#32971)

我已有十多年的开发经验，用过Pasical 、FORTRAN、PLM、VC++、C、PB、VB等语言，做过iRMX、NT、Unix系统下的开发，现在正在等通知，不知该做何准备，东一榔头，西一棒槌的，英语复习效果也不好。今年我已35岁，真不知这样做是否有意义，请问Jabber有何高见？ -ada123(殷殷); 2001.3.14 00:59 (#32977)

Some of your skills, eg., Fortran, are no longer helpful in Canada's IT market. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.14 07:33 (263 bytes. #33037)

Thanks again! I'll do my best. -ada123(殷殷); 2001.3.14 09:06 (#33065)

If you're really strong in VC++, then MCSD may help you (it better to pass the VC++ test). -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.16 15:10 (610 bytes. #33882)

I recommend an article from Washingtonpost: A One-Day Dot.Com Career. It is a story in my area. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:44 (142 bytes. #32722)

〖精华〗 My assignment is gone today. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.12 22:29 (486 bytes. #32604)

Oh, my gosh! But I think it would be a piece of cake for you to find a better position! I've learned a lot from your articles! Thanks guy! -eglington(_); 2001.3.12 22:41 (#32615)

Egg, thanks. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:50 (#32725)

Jabber. I am very sorry to hear about that. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.12 23:17 (302 bytes. #32625)

Ji-Ang, thank you. You abused a word: guru. Aha! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:51 (#32726)

Jiang: Just a small gossip: do u happen to know Tian2 Jin4 Hui1, a previous IBM engineer working @ call center, Beijing? -map(恭喜); 2001.3.13 09:28 (#32756)

no. I am a new ITer -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.13 10:01 (#32775)

O, c. He used to be an engineer answering 800 phone calls. very helpful and skillful. never meet him but it's so impressive of his services. IBM is a great company. -map(恭喜); 2001.3.15 07:09 (#33369)

Hi, map, are you -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.3.15 09:18 (182 bytes. #33389)

Apparently, he is not in IBM, did you ever hear anybody praise his employer as a "a great company"? :) -rolia(rolia); 2001.3.15 10:37 (#33410)

yeah, rolia JJ, pei fu, pei fu... xixi... How are you? Seems that we loose contact for a long time..... Wish you are doing well.... Miss you... -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.3.15 10:41 (#33412)

佩服，向你这样有信心的，很快就能找到的 -guest:guest; 2001.3.12 23:31 (#32632)

Thank you so much! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:52 (#32727)

sorry about that, in any case , I don't think it will be a problem for you, -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.12 23:46 (152 bytes. #32637)

Thank you. I went home yesterday at 2.pm. I really felt relaxed. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:54 (#32728)

Dear jabber, welcome to Ottawa! Our company needs a Java expert like you! -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.3.13 00:12 (#32648)

Thank you. Marco. I am still thinking about whether to stay in USA or go back to Canada. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:56 (#32729)

Take care, Jabber. It is just another challange for you. Looking forward to your good news. -hearts(hearts); 2001.3.13 07:33 (#32721)

Thank you, hearts. You are one of the most thoughtful writers here, while I am the most prolific. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 07:57 (#32730)

Hi Jabber,Good luck to you -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.3.13 08:09 (#32731)

Merci, merci! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 08:13 (#32733)

Why did I annonce I have lost my job? -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 08:20 (1351 bytes. #32732)

I am sorry to hear that.Best wishes for you.You are always kind and helpful. -wendywendy(wind); 2001.3.13 08:35 (#32736)

敬礼,Jabber. I couldn't agree you more. Your opinions are always so valuable. If all the new-comers can take your advise seriously, they should encounter much less hard situation as you do. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.13 10:39 (#32784)

I have a question for you. -guest:guest; 2001.3.13 09:18 (61 bytes. #32748)

Quite possibly, my job is prety secure, why? Cause I’m dirty cheap! so I will go to second cup sit on my behind and smoke some good stuff without worrying someone take over my job. (of course mass lay off or total shut down is another story).! -guest:jj; 2001.3.13 09:38 (#32764)

Isn't it a good chance to take a breath and start a new life/assignment? -map(恭喜); 2001.3.13 09:26 (55 bytes. #32752)

恭喜, 恭喜! :-):-): -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 16:57 (#32894)

Jabber, Sir! Maybe it's time for you to think about your training school plan. We are expecting you here in Toronto! -henryliu(Shaolin); 2001.3.13 09:41 (#32766)

Training and training.... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 13:14 (1208 bytes. #32806)

You are a smart guy with a kind heart. If you like, come to Canada for a tour, I will host you. Good Luck. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.13 09:47 (#32768)

Thanks for your kind invitation. I do believe we can get together later -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 16:55 (#32892)

Take care and good luck. Jabber -lumlumq(lumlum); 2001.3.13 10:10 (220 bytes. #32776)

I really appreciate your signature--- that smiling face! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 16:55 (#32891)

Jabber, I believe you can handle it well. It's a start of a better run. Good luck! -sailor(Sailor); 2001.3.13 11:03 (#32788)

I hope I can get a better client. But it is hard...my begone client is only 5 minutes drive from my home... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.13 16:54 (#32890)

Do not worry. Take it easy. Be happy. Things will become better. -coffee(coffee); 2001.3.13 20:49 (#32916)

Thank you. Sure, if I cannot survive this matter, I definitely won't publish it. I just use my expereces to precaution others -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.14 07:37 (#33041)

You are so kind, God will bless you. May a happy life... -coffee(coffee); 2001.3.14 08:03 (#33044)

〖精华〗恶魔吹着笛子来 -guest:; 2001.3.11 16:48 (22341 bytes. #32117)

智者！当年Bjarne Stroustrup finished design of C++, AT&T 给他5万元作广告，他考虑后退回3万，说是太多了。如今SUN花了多少银子为JAVA铺路... -guest:永远的C++; 2001.3.13 21:25 (20 bytes. #32924)

思科证实裁员8000人 -guest:Cisco System; 2001.3.10 14:12 (542 bytes. #31976)

本人土木工程专业毕业，有若干年工作经验。现计算机应用硕士研究生毕业，在加拿大是否好找工作？年薪如何？ -benmao(笨猫); 2001.3.10 09:51 (#31949)

你的问题没法回答。各人情况太不一样了。来碰碰看吧 -ericwu(Eric Wu); 2001.3.10 10:11 (#31951)

还有哪个Free ISP支持Windows 2000，Netzero每个月只有40个小时，这个月估计就要爆掉了。 -yellow(yellow); 2001.3.9 20:53 (#31848)

Can anybody recommend me some C++ tests? -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.9 10:00 (202 bytes. #31710)

老牛也来嚼..草啦。呵呵。。不过吾对此一无所知。说不上什么。实际上吾有两件这辈子学不来的事－－1是编程，2是吃辣。呵呵 -mapmap(恭喜); 2001.3.10 08:25 (#31926)

Almost all web site are IDE specified. Like C++ Builder, VC, etc. Because C++ is extremly platform dependent. Pure C++ is hard to find. First you should decide which OS you are using. -ericwu(Eric Wu); 2001.3.10 10:20 (#31952)

I use both MS C++ and Borland C++ Builder. I just want to find some quizzes to test my understanding of C++ principles. Thanks. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.11 21:10 (#32167)

对哪方面感兴趣，大概说一下，我有7年C++经验，兴许我们可以交流一些。 -guest:hahaliao; 2001.3.10 10:43 (#31959)

in china i use this site: http://www.csdn.net -guest:diti; 2001.3.10 15:17 (#31980)

www.brainbench.com. Just ISO C++. -old(HH); 2001.3.24 02:16 (#36646)

Thanks, HH. Unfortunately, brainbench.com no longer provides free C++ tests. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.25 11:07 (#36946)

深圳 IT 行业有感 -coffee(coffee); 2001.3.8 23:17 (1688 bytes. #31579)

It is not a surprise! It is not typical of ShenZhen. You can see the similar stories in Canada. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.9 08:30 (#31681)

总是心太急气太躁。常常新人来了，成绩还没出，就提要求，什么要做这个，不做那个，两年之内要有international assignment，一年之内年薪多少，否则怎样。 -mapmap(恭喜); 2001.3.9 08:57 (67 bytes. #31687)

请问已有中国高校计算机应用本科或硕士学位（无编程工作经验）在加拿大是否容易找工作？ -benmao(笨猫); 2001.3.8 11:54 (#31389)

It's a bit hard, if you don't have any experience. However, you SHOULD be better than those who just learn Java for 3 or 4 months, right? EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN POSITION. take it easy. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.8 11:56 (#31390)

It's hard to find a good job in Canada. But if you graduated from a famous university in China(Master), you can find a job in USA. The salary is 65k US$ for entry level -guest:yade; 2001.3.9 18:25 (#31837)

I think people here cannot imagine why you don't have programming experience. Very weird. -guest:; 2001.3.9 21:21 (#31851)