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枫下论坛 /枫下论坛主坛 /工作学习/科技领域杂谈历史区第 3 页 -ROLIA.NET 相约加拿大网上社区

Hi guys,Do you know what "Extranets" is? -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.3.8 11:14 (#31360)

Do you know what Intranet is? An extranet, in brief, is a networking that enables the employees to access their intranet service from internet in a security way. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.8 11:16 (#31365)

I got it. Thanks -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.3.8 11:18 (#31367)

Or, sometimes, it refers to the networking service that enable the external users (like supplier, dealer, etc) to access part of their internet system (like inventory system). -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.8 11:24 (#31373)

Now i`am changing from MCSE/MCSD/MCDBA to EJB/Oracle/Solaris. jabber eglington ... come here. Please give me some advice. -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.3.8 09:38 (698 bytes. #31293)

For you, English is most important. That's it. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.8 09:41 (#31295)

Thanks. It's my bigest problem now. I aways think that the tech is more import and keep studing. -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.3.8 09:45 (#31296)

and my English are being forsaken. -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.3.8 09:49 (#31298)

I think you'd better sharpen your skills in MS family. You don't need to know everything, but you need to know something thoroughly. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.8 09:55 (182 bytes. #31302)

thanks a lot. Now i am almost lost myself. if my LP is coming next month, Waht shall i do? My English, Java, C#......???? -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.3.8 10:06 (#31308)

想要提高自己的竞争力,应该考mcse呢还是mcsd? 请从对申请的有利性以及今后找工作的有利性来告诉我原因. -swing(蓉蓉); 2001.3.8 07:11 (#31255)

Please take a look at the old tips in this forum. With MCSE you will be still difficult to find a job. -chx(程程); 2001.3.9 02:29 (154 bytes. #31640)

Simply speaking, I pay homage to all MCSDs, But I think MCSEs is nothing. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.9 08:23 (#31679)

Java真的这么吃香？我其他的什么都不会，只要学会JAVA，也可以找个IT的工作吗？这么好？光学JAVA的话，应该不太难啊。 -emsdhl2001(名片夹); 2001.3.8 05:25 (#31244)

You had better browse the past posts in this forum. -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.3.8 08:20 (#31262)

Thank you for replying me so quickly,Jabber. You have done a great job here! You pulled me back from a wrong way,Thank you. -benniu(benniu); 2001.3.7 10:11 (#31041)

Hi,jabber! I need your advice,pls coming in. -benniu(benniu); 2001.3.7 09:37 (182 bytes. #31027)

No MS J++, please. MS J++ is a distortion to Java. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:52 (275 bytes. #31037)

〖精华〗 What exactly are we, as IT professionals, doing ?? -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.6 17:28 (1484 bytes. #30820)

How could you know this? That's exactly what we are doing! -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.6 17:54 (#30821)

我收到Dalhousie的Electrical Engineering 的硕士全奖，有谁知道Dalhousie University( Halifax) 怎么样？ -yurk(yurk); 2001.3.6 09:02 (#30661)

I heard that Dal Housie University is famous for its Medical Science. Sorry don't know about Eletrical Engineering. Anyway it's a good university, at least in the east coast Canada. BTW, Halifax is a very beautiful city. I am sure you will like it. -tutu(lazy tutu); 2001.3.6 09:52 (#30677)

thank you for your reply. where are you now, canada or china? -yurk(yurk); 2001.3.6 10:15 (#30695)

I am in Halifax. :) -tutu(lazy tutu); 2001.3.6 10:28 (#30704)

are you immigrant? -yurk(yurk); 2001.3.6 10:32 (#30707)

hope you could give me your email address, i have many questions to ask to precedent! -yurk(yurk); 2001.3.6 10:34 (#30709)

a, my sister is also in Halifax. :) -alwayssmile(alwayssmile); 2001.3.6 18:34 (35 bytes. #30826)

http://www3.telus.net/info/gourman-can.htm -guest:ee ranking; 2001.3.6 10:56 (#30720)

Halifax is called the gate of Canada, Chinese called it Summer City, it's a beautiful coast city, it has longer history and more universities than Toronto, go ahead, you will like it. -guest:guest; 2001.3.6 11:16 (#30729)

A basic question: when was the first JDK 2 version issued by sun? Where can I get its docementation? -canada(canada); 2001.3.6 00:21 (#30595)

Maybe JDK1.1.7 But most pop now are JDK1.2.2 and JDK1.3 http://java.sun.com/products/ Page Link -qbrother(qbrother); 2001.3.6 09:22 (#30667)

High Speed 到底算什么东西？ ADSL？ ISDN？ -guest:cola; 2001.3.5 21:23 (104 bytes. #30505)

Bell Sympatico uses ADSL (Asymetric DSL). Rogers@home uses Coxal Cable. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.5 21:37 (217 bytes. #30511)

ADSL or SDSL -guest:; 2001.3.5 21:33 (#30512)

DSL的流行就是因为使用了电话线，是用回波抵消的技术达到高带宽。而且使用的是你的电话线同时跑语音和数据，不需要专用电缆，isdn是一种过时的技术，只有中国电信还拿来骗骗人。 -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.5 22:29 (#30558)

how about cable modem? -bolomi(bolomi); 2001.3.6 04:13 (#30639)

取决于你的住址，如果你离局端设备(电信交换机房比较近，旧用adsl否则还是用cable，但别忘了你还要先接cable. -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.6 04:25 (#30641)

你知道什么叫ISDN吗？什么叫过时的技术？不懂别瞎说。 -guest:; 2001.3.6 05:08 (#30645)

懂的多说点 -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.6 09:35 (#30674)

ISDN是过时了的.现在电信局都不愿使这玩意.只是钱抽\投下去,,不得不撑住,不信我? -bolomi(bolomi); 2001.3.6 11:31 (75 bytes. #30739)

我确实不太懂，呵呵，反正学了也没用。当然你对isdn特别了解的话，转学atm其实挺容易的。两者的机制非常象。另外想一想你说的，也有道理窄带isdn虽过时了，但宽带isdn（atm）还没有呢，呵呵。 -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.6 19:58 (#30835)

my first job was working for Alcatel / Newbridge for LMDS, is wireless ATM, called LMDS. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.6 22:36 (#30890)

must know you instantly. I am doing Alcatel /Newbridge now!!!! e-mail me edwardjiang@hotmail.com -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.7 00:24 (#30926)

Does it like Ip over Fiber?Or you can tell me more? -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.7 02:00 (#30939)

Are you talking about carrier? spectrum 27-28 Ghz, bandwidth 1 Ghz, 10Mbps. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.9 00:48 (203 bytes. #31617)

现在在CANADA，IT行业什么最吃香？software or hardware? java or C++,which certification is most useful,MCSE w2k? CCNP? or something else.(排除语言因素），我是2000年四月拿到FN的，还有大把时间学习，请给个方向,thanks -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 09:40 (#30355)

Now, we have another fish! Answer your question: It's really hard to say which one is the most popular and marketable, and the most important fact is what you are doing now. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.5 09:53 (417 bytes. #30361)

i am upgrading my MCSE,after that i will get CCNA and then CCNP,but all of you are talking about JAVA,C++,I think i am hesitant now.BTW,i have the copyright to use this "fish",i think.:) -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 09:58 (#30362)

I think you misunderstand me. When I saying that, I mean, I am so happy we have another fish. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.5 10:01 (#30366)

I didn't mean that,it is just a joke,hehe -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 10:05 (#30368)

thanks -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 10:04 (#30367)

〖精华〗 I view "IT高手" from China -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.5 09:13 (3420 bytes. #30348)

it is not easy to call anyone an expert in any fields,I agree with you.Keep learning is the most important thing,please give me a direction,I still have enough time to study,to learn,to try....... -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 09:50 (#30360)

You don't have plenty of time, trust me! You might be able to get your LP within one year (I guess), and it's really not enough to to fully prepared if you don't even know what to learn or practice. So, HURRY UP! -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.5 10:00 (#30365)

that is my trouble, :( , i don't want to wander in the cold street. -sinoguy(泡泡鱼); 2001.3.5 10:09 (#30369)

Man, don't ask people what you should do. You should be sel-motivated. However, I can tell you one thing ... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.5 12:21 (98 bytes. #30411)

Whatever it is all truth, else less guys complained here! -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.6 22:44 (81 bytes. #30892)

Then, what about unix c programming? I mean i have two years experience on this field. -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.3.7 05:22 (151 bytes. #30982)

Unic c programmers are a treasure in the market. However, you should also be able to play with C++ on Unix platforms. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:55 (295 bytes. #31019)

Thank you very much. -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.3.7 20:30 (#31143)

C + Shell programming -albxu(Yukon); 2001.3.16 15:27 (433 bytes. #33896)

“opportunitis will be broad.“ in what area? -guest:Yukon?; 2001.3.16 18:19 (#33941)

ok, thank you for ur suggestion. -trafford(老特拉福德的荣耀); 2001.3.18 02:15 (335 bytes. #34222)

如果不确定将来干刹么现在学刹么，有个好方法： -map(恭喜); 2001.3.7 08:41 (463 bytes. #31004)

恭喜, I was touched to tears... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:34 (539 bytes. #31024)

Agree. She is one of those truly gifted. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001.3.7 17:02 (#31120)

写得太棒了，如同黑夜中的一点星光。希望以后还能看到这样真实的心理感受 -sun_xd(浪子); 2001.3.7 20:25 (#31141)

Jabber, enjoy reading your articles, many helps to me. thank you very much. -cinder(cinder); 2001.3.8 22:34 (#31554)

非常佩服您的观点... -guest:David_Ye_ca; 2001.3.11 00:09 (198 bytes. #32041)

我基本同意Jabber。我有些变态，因为我从汇编到C++写了六七年，结果和一个只上了三个月Java培训班的人工资差不多。你说气人不？号称会Java,EJB,CORBA, 名词一大堆，却连基本的操作系统、系统结构，数据库常识都没有，只会吹！ -ericwu(Eric Wu); 2001.3.16 17:42 (#33935)

千万别变态，我从汇编写到C++，10年了，还没找到工作呢，是不是比你惨，有些事情千万别较真，要说那些转行的真不容易，从一个自己擅长的领域转到一个完全陌生的领域是需要很大的勇气的。反正大家互相体谅点，都不容易。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001.3.16 17:49 (#33937)

受益、受益，你的面试叫人受益！下会我去面试我给他们聊我正在学的新技术时，专聊那种还在理论研究阶段，还没进LAB开发的新东东！！ -whitetiger(whitetiger); 2001.3.16 18:44 (#33945)

你何必生气。你又不雇他(她)。 -guest:FEB; 2001.3.16 17:51 (#33938)

很多职位也不要求你精通，用不了那么深。倒是想请教一下，计算机科班出身的人择业的优势，方向，范围如何？ -guest:; 2001.3.16 18:31 (#33942)

专业思想方法，专业的COMMEN SENSE：软件设计方法，软件结构，数据结构，算法优化，编程风格，系统知识（硬件系统，操作系统，软件应用系统）这些东西讲起来有些抽象其实都不是很难（特别是在实用阶段） -guest:; 2001.3.16 20:03 (160 bytes. #33954)

也许平时工作并不明显看出太多差别，但1）计算机业工资较高2）还是有差别的 -guest:科班LABOUR; 2001.3.16 20:31 (#33958)

在市场上，能不能划分出哪些更适合科班的，哪些不适合，举些例子，免得大家争同一碗饭。 -guest:; 2001.3.17 19:25 (#34155)

Eric, take it easy. Your strong background will reward you. Those so-called Java programmers will have their hard time. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.16 21:14 (#33965)

运气很重要，我知道有人连session，cookie都没听说过，还在一著名公司写著名e-commerce程序呢! -uid(miracle); 2001.3.16 21:36 (#33969)

放弃多年AS/400经验而转向Java，会得到更好的发展机会吗？ -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.5 06:36 (475 bytes. #30334)

其实我也有类似的疑问，可能AS400的基础还不如您呢。但是，精通一门肯定可以找到工作，金融部门、部分企业仍然在使用这种机器 -christinee(小熊); 2001.3.5 06:49 (#30336)

Hi! Good to know that someone is thinking of the same thing as I do. I‘m sure that an experienced AS/400 programmer will find a job in Canada, sooner or later. But I worry about the future of such a career. By the way, have you received your LP? -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.6 06:34 (#30653)

I got the lp. It is good to begin new technology -christinee(小熊); 2001.3.7 03:17 (26 bytes. #30952)

Congratulations! Good luck! -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.8 07:16 (#31256)

You may count the AS/390 and AS/Box in Canada. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.6 09:22 (499 bytes. #30669)

Thank you, Jabber. Could you tell me what AS/Box is? I'm embarassed that although I've been working with IBM technologies for years, I've never heard of that box before. -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.7 07:26 (#30993)

Sorry for my typos... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:13 (465 bytes. #31014)

Thank you for your patience. No sorry please. -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.8 06:56 (#31252)

And how about DB2 and SQL? I'm rather farmiliar with them. Are they useful in the Java world? Thanks a lot. -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.7 07:29 (#30994)

DB2 is an IBM main product so it is popular. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:17 (179 bytes. #31015)

I use the AS/400 version of DB2. We use SQL statements when writing server side programs, like stored procedures and triggers. We call it embeded SQL. I think it is just like using SQL in Java. -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.8 07:08 (#31253)

If you were given an opportunity, you can undertake a lot of tasks. I don't doubt it. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.8 09:40 (1315 bytes. #31294)

It's very kind of you, Jabber. -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.9 09:02 (1109 bytes. #31692)

Jabber, would you mind give me some tips on AS/390? -mvs(os/390); 2001.3.7 10:18 (258 bytes. #31042)

Should be OS/390. You are an expert. Don't tease me, please. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 10:51 (161 bytes. #31053)

By the way, this reminds me of a mistake I often committed two years ago: I used to type "she" as "he"! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 22:12 (#31055)

AS/400 Era at its end!! u r right, pick up smth new, leading edge. AS/Box is kind of nickname for IBM midrange. -guest:AS400; 2001.3.7 07:36 (#30995)

Nick name! Was I kind of foolish? hehe! -flyhigh(flyer); 2001.3.7 08:55 (#31009)

我也是做AS/400的，本不想做了，想转向RS/6000，可现在公司又有了个AS/400的项目，还得接着做。不知各位对Business Intelligence 的前景有何高见？洗耳恭听。 -per(per); 2001.4.2 05:49 (#39636)

请教各位前辈，现在我还在国内，进行c/c++方面的工作。为出国顺利的找工作做准备。但是1年以后加拿大的it业在那个方面的机会会大些呢？因为我觉得什么东西学着都一回事，但是一旦选错了就麻烦了。望给些建议。 -foolzz(foolzz); 2001.3.5 00:55 (#30260)

我也想知道. -fenghe(EricHe); 2001.3.5 01:34 (#30272)

我也想知道，估计找不到工作的同志们都想知道。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.3.5 01:44 (#30275)

你们真是，明知山有虎，偏向虎山行 -guest:加拿大人民欢迎你们; 2001.3.5 01:56 (#30276)

多伦多的工作CISCO ORACLE -guest:joyday; 2001.3.3 21:06 (123 bytes. #29998)

128M ,tnt2 ,8.6G ,Inter815E mainboard(include sound card) , celon667 ,Monitor ,Case, CDROM All above are new parts. Just sell CN$700. email: micronet88@hotmail.com Location: Toronto Downtown -guest:micronet88@hotmail.; 2001.3.3 18:23 (#29982)

请教：关于申请顶级域名. -guest:askforhelp; 2001.3.3 11:57 (251 bytes. #29950)

www.easyhosting.com, $15CAD/year for a .com domain name. Page Link -sailor(Sailor); 2001.3.5 12:05 (#30409)

jabber! 我也俗了,搞java啦! 我们项目(一个内部网站)的部分功能要从CGI迁移到websphere上, 我是scjp,开会又老吹自己java有多nb,这活就交给我了.到时候有问题可要向你请教呀! 其实你以前的帖子都够写书的了. 赫赫 -eglington(eglington); 2001.3.2 22:29 (#29862)

Hi, everybody, just get offer letter from one company, but another company also said will give me offer in next few days so what is the best way for me? -guest:guest; 2001.3.1 23:42 (637 bytes. #29631)

I think you could call the second company, tell them you have already got an offer, and ask them if they could quicken their process. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.2 09:53 (217 bytes. #29700)

But I need to sign the offer letter and response to it. and I already tell them I can start immediatly. -guest:guest; 2001.3.2 11:08 (#29729)

Then just start your new job now. One bird in hand is better than two birds in wood. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.2 11:20 (#29733)

Agree, at least you should start to work and gain the working experiance in Canada. Maybe one year later, you will have more choice. Good luck men! -maple_sea(红枫海); 2001.3.2 12:38 (#29743)

Is it easy to find a job on Computer Software in Toronto now? -guest:; 2001.3.1 22:33 (671 bytes. #29612)

If your English is fluent, if your working skill is NOT Foxpro, PowerBuilder, Lotus Notes, COBOL, Delphi, you may have a luck. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 10:52 (52 bytes. #29719)

〖精华〗 To those friends who were not original from IT field and trying to learn a programming language. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.1 19:28 (305 bytes. #29543)

九万三千四百七十二个多伦多正改行学电脑的同仁感谢您的信息！！现授予你‘及时雨’光荣称号。可实际应用为‘及时雨混沌汤’。 -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.1 20:04 (#29558)

能在Unix上用吗？如果不能，前途有限。请简单介绍介绍 -eglington(_); 2001.3.1 20:41 (#29573)

什么意思啊？以后的潮流又改为c了，是不是java现在没人要了？在toronto 开个小店需要多少银子？ -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.3.1 20:45 (#29575)

要是在Linux上用不了我就不学C#了. -guest:Linux将照偏全球; 2001.3.1 21:25 (#29586)

这个 C# 怎么读啊？ -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.1 22:21 (#29608)

C sharp. It can not be used outside Windows. -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.3.1 22:33 (#29613)

这东东是什么？难学吗？ -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.3.2 00:50 (#29643)

Some general idea behind the C# language (C Sharp) and .NET. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.2 00:31 (1217 bytes. #29641)

Besides the programming language, try to invest your time as much as possible to the XML and SOAP, these two thing would be the universal laguage for the message exchange across platforms. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.2 00:54 (#29644)

I view C# and .NET -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 22:00 (1758 bytes. #29716)

I think jabber is right. No matter whatever skills you have if you are an expert on it. And, all IT fields are similary in some sense. -bloor(bloor); 2001.3.2 11:11 (#29730)

Agree. My intention here is for those friends who was not from the IT field. As a matter of fact, as long as you are good at something, you can make a living easily, doesn't matter it is MS or SUN or Java or IBM. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.2 11:27 (#29736)

I want to emphasize one thing -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 14:08 (2074 bytes. #29757)

字字千金.. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.3.2 14:15 (#29759)

I would like to sell these words to Wonton Coup at 50% discount. Ciao! -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 17:00 (#29783)

jabber, what does "Ciao" mean? -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.3.2 19:40 (#29803)

Ciao means laughing (Xiao) in Chinese. Some English-speaking guys use it in the informal communications. Sorry for confusing you. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 21:38 (#29847)

Jaby????!!! -guest:; 2001.3.2 21:50 (#29850)

Italian, " Bye"....but Romanian said this too. -guest:; 2001.3.2 21:45 (#29849)

and "hello" -guest:hello; 2001.3.2 22:01 (#29852)

Jabber, 你好！我一直默默地关注着这里的消息，感谢你一直的热心支持和帮助．我现在还在国内，签证８月到期，正在学习ＪＡＶＡ,准备参加程序员认证考试．想听听你的建议． -chx(程程); 2001.3.7 02:58 (745 bytes. #30950)

i feel you somewhat lost the point. i am not IT professional but i think you'd better concentrate in improving english and communication skills. for any IT skill, as long as you are good at something, you will find a place. -rlz7213(Rachel); 2001.3.7 04:30 (#30967)

Here you go... -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.7 09:48 (945 bytes. #31033)

Jabber, your suggestions are always so good. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.7 09:51 (#31036)

Thank you jabber and Rachel. About project life-cycle and methodology, I have learnt Software Eengineering in universiry. THe course introduced several knowledges about software development -chx(程程); 2001.3.8 22:44 (767 bytes. #31559)

什么地方有教的吗? -guest:上网打老虎; 2001.3.3 20:03 (#29986)

Microsoft's site -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.4 20:07 (#30118)

请问有cisco 的 CCIE 认证在canada好找工作吗？？ -guest:ciscoant; 2001.3.1 05:10 (151 bytes. #29429)

The population of CCIE in Canada is 149 just a little more the China,(China has 144 CCIE). I haven't been to Canada, but I think CCIE is easy to find a work in any place, if you haven't any problem of communication. -chrisxu(chris); 2001.3.1 20:54 (#29578)

It is rumored that (in USA) the starting salary of a CCIE in Cisco should be $120K. -jabber(jabber); 2001.3.2 10:55 (125 bytes. #29721)

请问IT行业在VANCOUER真的很难找工作吗? 很怕多伦多漫长的冬季. -guest:warm; 2001.2.26 00:44 (#28585)

有VANCOUVER的朋友吗？因为身体原因，及怕寒冷。故虽然将近面试，仍下不了移民决心，实在不想去一年1/2是冬季的Torato。从网上看到VANCOUVER又不适合IT人士，不知如何是好。请各位前辈指点方向，不胜感激！ -guest:warm; 2001.2.26 20:41 (#28765)

I want to know either. I really want to sun rise form the sea. But worry about the money. -chrisxu(chris); 2001.2.26 21:02 (#28770)

多伦多的冬天没有想象的那么冷。室内温度20度，冬天我只盖毯子。室外如果风不大，步行的时候连手套和帽子也不用戴。如果买了车，就更没有什么可怕的了。 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001.2.26 22:12 (#28792)

多谢David.但是我从网上看到多伦多从9月开始供应暖气,直到来年4月.那岂不是比哈尔滨的冬季还长?和北京比呢?只因有点老毛病,在哈尔滨时整天跑医院,北京的寒风也受不了,直到去了南方才摆脱了药罐子.所以实在是怕.... -guest:warm; 2001.2.27 00:41 (#28864)

这里不是统一供暖，而是要求冬天雇主必须保持室温在21度以上。9月就开暖气可能有些夸张，不过也有可能，因为房东的暖气炉都是感温自动控制。如果你的病是呼吸系统方面的，很可能与污染有关，说不定吸点干净空气就好了。据说温哥华的冬天又阴又冷，反不如多伦多。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.27 09:05 (#28929)

多谢roller大哥.我的病主要是免疫系统方面,怕冷怕潮.倒不需要经常去医院,只是要常吃药.是不是VANCOUVER还要更潮湿?不过我也是想,没准过去了环境好心情好,病也没有了.另外LANGDING时多带点药有没有关系? -guest:warm; 2001.2.27 20:05 (#29036)

多带些药肯定没问题。据说温哥华的冬天又潮又冷，看来不适合你。多伦多虽然冷，但通常比较干燥。如果你仔细选择住址，比如住在地铁站附近，你就不需在冷风中等车，完全可以把冷留在窗外。可惜，地铁里没有滑雪场。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.27 22:18 (#29079)

I was relocated from my company from Toronto to Vancouver in Nov.last year. Vancouver is evergreen in Winter, Colourful in spring.wonderful place, English Bay and Grouse Mountain, always in your eyes, if I live there. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.2.28 00:20 (55 bytes. #29126)

谢谢rollor大哥设身处地地着想.我在国内从事IT行业7年,目前年薪15万,且享受公费医疗.只是干的没那么开心.我是个淡泊的人,只想安心做技术,可是却常被卷入领导的勾心斗角,争名夺利之中.而且在国内做技术即使做得再好,地位也还不如一个七品芝麻官.所以移民对我来说是一种逃避. -guest:warm; 2001.2.28 03:05 (#29144)

领导?七品芝麻官? 国营单位现在可以pay到15万? -guest:领导; 2001.2.28 08:40 (#29169)

谁不是在逃避？说是为了追求幸福生活，可谁不知道“在家千般好，出门万事难”的道理？可那么多人还是要出来，谁能说自己不是在逃避？ -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.28 08:57 (46 bytes. #29170)

旧的问题逃避了,新的问题可能会接踵而来---孤单,寂寞,思乡之情. 尤其是已过而立之年,还有天天盼着能早点报上孙子的花甲父母. 理智上讲真不该出去,可又不甘心放弃.所以趁年轻早点出去实在是上策. -guest:w; 2001.3.1 21:34 (#29589)

IT业工作机会在Vancouver 肯定比在Toronto机会少，但比别的行业还是好太多了。 -ying2(ying2); 2001.2.27 01:06 (123 bytes. #28867)

thank you.不知坛子里有没有在VANCOUVER做ORACLE DBA的,或做C,JAVA程序员的.想交流一下.另外VANCOUVER的医疗保险可以一落地就买吗? -guest:warm; 2001.2.27 04:10 (#28901)

加拿大看病不要钱，但是看病必登天难。普通一个胸透，预约到照片您得等2个月；急诊急吧，您急他不急。有看急诊不用等3个钟头以上的人么？您这个样子，请三思而后来。 -howru(How are you?); 2001.2.27 19:04 (#29029)

您这么一说我还真有些犹豫. -guest:warm; 2001.2.27 20:24 (246 bytes. #29045)

温哥华肯定有好工作,关键是工作少竞争大,薪水也低,我的建议是先去渥太华或多伦多,等有工作经验后再回温哥华,那里是个养老的好地方,不过it行业的收入很低 -wins(wins); 2001.2.28 20:04 (#29269)

what is your reference point to make such a general conclusion. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.3.12 02:32 (641 bytes. #32323)

I think what you said is right, but it is not suitable for new immigrant -wins(wins); 2001.3.12 10:03 (879 bytes. #32395)

温哥华的IT工作还是不少。 -seilings(bug); 2001.2.27 19:30 (189 bytes. #29030)

where I can find some IT job infomation in Vancouver. -swh(bug); 2001.2.27 22:03 (#29070)

Here. Page Link -ying2(ying2); 2001.2.27 22:58 (#29100)

Thank you, -swh(bug); 2001.3.2 04:02 (#29665)

how about the price for buying a house? Same as Toronto or Ottawa? -guest:mike; 2001.3.2 08:16 (55 bytes. #29688)

http://www.computersprice.com (Compare Over 100 stores's prices in one single site side-by-side!) -mikewen(Lucky Man); 2001.2.22 15:51 (#27958)

Unix/Shell/C/Oracle opportunity at Vancouver, 2 month contract -peterlf(fromZtoA); 2001.2.21 22:39 (79 bytes. #27778)

Jabber's suggestion for contributing to rolia.com -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.21 16:48 (720 bytes. #27695)

Good suggestion. I will contribute in the circumstance that more background information of this webside is revealed. -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.21 16:11 (#27696)

Thank you for your kindly suggestion. But I don't think money is a problem for me. -sailor(Sailor); 2001.2.21 16:28 (713 bytes. #27699)

Sailor, you could absolutely keep this site private, as before. What Jabber means (as my understanding), is only a way to express our thanks and wishes. It's only a one time donation (maybe some more in the future), so just accept it. -bloor(bloor); 2001.2.22 11:21 (#27927)

10 元不多。也许可以开设一个专用帐户。自愿者可以把钱转进这个户口。积少成多，用来维护网站也好，用来聚会也好，或者用来帮助遇到意外急需一些帮助的人也好。 -seilings(bug); 2001.2.21 17:35 (#27706)

同意，就看具体怎么办了。 -eglington(eglington); 2001.2.21 19:47 (#27717)

Some thoughts -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.22 08:58 (1253 bytes. #27898)

It's really a good idea. At least, it's a way we say thanks to Sailor for all of his effort. "Without you, there will be no way", the same I want to say to Sailor! -bloor(bloor); 2001.2.22 10:26 (#27917)

Ok. Now that you guys are so nice and considerate, I will stop wondering what and why. I will contribute. No questions. -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.22 10:39 (#27921)

me too. No problem! -canada(canada); 2001.2.22 11:34 (#27931)

说几句闲话。非常感谢Sailor不放广告，做为这样一个乐园，每一个人都受到别人真诚的帮助，同时也不遗余力地帮助别人，这主要是精神上的，是完全free的天空。 -coffee(coffee); 2001.2.22 21:47 (620 bytes. #28035)

I don't think we need that amount of money annually to maintain the website like rolia.com. You may settle........ let us DoForYou -colin(DoForYou.net); 2001.2.22 12:39 (259 bytes. #27940)

I am afraid that those ISPs cannot host our site. Why??? -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.22 20:18 (166 bytes. #28005)

The site of doforyou.net is not a free staff. We own the site and I'd like to share the space for rolia and Folks. Just let me know what kind of database rolia use in backend server. Page Link Pic Link -colin(DoForYou.net); 2001.2.23 10:07 (#28154)

Agree the result of the discusion! -old(HH); 2001.2.24 11:40 (#28342)

IT的同行们请关注！在加拿大年薪100K$以上的国内去的程序员能有多少？别的移民论坛称：在国内的家庭年收入超过200KRMB，去加拿大挣钱就没有意义了。您怎么看这个问题？（渴望直言真言） -blisa(blisa); 2001.2.21 07:45 (#27621)

If you are a senior software engineer, and had several years north america experience, you can get over 100k also. -guest:mike; 2001.2.21 08:18 (205 bytes. #27628)

This depends on your goal. -guest:guest; 2001.2.21 09:29 (487 bytes. #27638)

it is too late to regret. -guest:guest; 2001.2.21 10:59 (#27650)

if you only want the money now, do not go to Canada, if you want money of the future( not far away) and add some clolors to your life, come. If you are good and you believe that you are good, you can make good money anywhere, sooner or later. -guest:guest; 2001.2.21 11:28 (#27654)

尽管钱是一个问题，但不要把目光紧盯在钱上。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.21 11:39 (706 bytes. #27656)

我发现Rollor大哥讲的话总是很有道理. -beibei(beibei); 2001.2.21 15:01 (#27687)

同意 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.21 15:33 (50 bytes. #27689)

他要改名叫Reasonable了 -eglington(eglington); 2001.2.21 19:49 (#27718)

No. My official name is No Problem. -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.21 22:52 (#27785)

我是8年多没回去过了,现在国内真的这马糟糕吗? 现在还是共产党领导吗? -jian23(mdt4); 2001.2.21 16:34 (633 bytes. #27701)

hehe, Rollor 的生活现状只有四个字可以概括: 繁荣昌盛! -rolia(rolia); 2001.3.8 10:46 (#31331)

夸奖了。上面的帖子是按写简历的技巧写的，虽然没有撒谎，但虚张声势的成分还是有的。其实我的生活也很艰辛，在深圳时我雇人给我做饭，现在享受不了了，每天必须亲自下厨。前些日子还把手指头尖儿削掉一些，至今未愈（日本产的切削器，真好用）。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.3.8 11:58 (#31392)

要挣钱就不去加拿大，去加拿大是为了享受生活。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.2.21 21:04 (#27739)

别让生活把你给享受了.. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.2.21 21:12 (#27741)

放心吧你呢！我会在任何生活水平上享受生活。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001.2.22 01:26 (#27839)

good point! 心态最重要。所谓桃花源，只有从心里归去来矣！ -sw989(Londoner); 2001.3.8 11:06 (#31351)

在加拿大能吃上羊肉泡才是真正的享受生活. -yangy(yy); 2001.2.22 01:33 (#27845)

I make 120K a year now, three years experience, computer science M.Sc from a US top 25 university. -guest:; 2001.2.23 23:22 (83 bytes. #28269)

sorry guys, I don't think it is a good point of talking. Who care the guys make much inChina. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.2.24 00:55 (871 bytes. #28282)

在我身边许多人能有月薪6000的水平去加拿大不一定是为赚钱呀?在那儿可以转道美国,申请顶好的大学而现在顶好的大学即使给你offer,也会因为奖学金非全奖而被拒,好可怜! -swing(蓉蓉); 2001.3.8 07:28 (#31258)

真遗憾, www.deja.com关闭了! 过去它可是帮了我许多啊... -neil(wu); 2001.2.21 00:42 (#27513)

It is so sad to know that deja.com was taken over by other company. I miss it, too. -guest:Blue; 2001.2.21 01:18 (#27525)

It becomes GOOGLE, but we can still read some news letters. Long for deja! -eperson(ePerson); 2001.2.21 05:35 (#27616)

What a pitty. I found my first accomondation place of Canada through Deja, at that time I was still in China. -sailor(Sailor); 2001.2.21 14:46 (#27684)

Don't worry. www.rolia.com is still there though it does not make any profit. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.21 15:55 (#27692)

版主为什么不单独开辟一个“IT找工”专栏？其实找工作本身就是一门技术。 -guest:酒足饭饱; 2001.2.19 12:39 (#27231)

Thank you for suggestion. However, it is difficult for us to offer such help. To hunt for a job, people need to talk agents. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.19 13:43 (#27243)

How about studying Computer Science in Brock Univ ???? -guest:cola; 2001.2.18 00:28 (#27017)

请问Ontario计算机类（computer Science）专业排名靠前毕业好找工的有哪几个大学？ -guest:cola; 2001.2.17 23:35 (62 bytes. #27002)

Hi, I am looking for somebody who are good at Flash and similar web page designing tools. Maybe we can share experience and help each other. Thank you! -birdswimming(feifei); 2001.2.17 22:42 (#26972)

没有Web designer吗? 本人改行,正处在生死存亡的关键时期, 真诚希望各位前辈多多指点.谢谢! -birdswimming(feifei); 2001.2.17 22:57 (#26978)

你要积极参与本坛的各类腐败活动，从实践中学习，从战斗中提高。这里高手很多，只要牌桌上你点他几炮，他就会象抽水马桶，哗哗不停 -eglington(eglington); 2001.2.17 23:28 (#26996)

天啊!在我苦苦等待了40分钟,无人问津的情况下,终于有人回帖子了.thank you very much Eglinton. you are my friend for life. 如果你不介意，我很乐意点你几炮,希望阁下之信息如山间小溪哗啦啦哗啦啦流下来. -birdswimming(feifei); 2001.2.17 23:32 (#27000)

泄了 -eglington(eglington); 2001.2.17 23:33 (#27001)

聚会文章又写了一段，写到麻将桌，写不下去了，快快快去接龙 -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.2.18 01:09 (#27022)

推荐你个FLASH 速成工具 Swish 效果可以去我的主页看看还成 http://LCLL2000.bizland.com -guest:cola; 2001.2.17 23:39 (#27007)

再一次深深感动,容我现在离开3-5分钟,浏览一下你的主页. -birdswimming(feifei); 2001.2.17 23:43 (#27010)

very nice web page design. Now I am designing my own web site. I'd like to discuss the details in your web pages by email. thank you! -birdswimming(feifei); 2001.2.18 00:11 (#27015)

hehe i think u 'd better go to swish's website to find more cool design. and my email, saturday2000@us.sina.com -guest:cola; 2001.2.18 00:26 (#27016)

could anyone tell me wether WebSphere is usefull in Canada? and what about Oracle8i? I have a chance to learn WebSphere,but I am not sure if it's useful. thanks. -per(per); 2001.2.17 02:18 (#26886)

Of course, useful. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.19 10:53 (#27223)

who knows where to download SQL SERVER2000 tutorial? -canada(canada); 2001.2.16 15:44 (#26773)

Why SQL Server 2000? Why not Oracle 8i? -guest:guest; 2001.2.16 15:55 (#26777)

Back, Back, Back, .... Jabber seeks your help! -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.16 11:43 (2078 bytes. #26724)

Try there META tags. Hopes it is helpful. -bloor(bloor); 2001.2.16 11:49 (220 bytes. #26728)

Thank you, bloor. Your trick applies to proxy ONLY, not to Browser. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.16 12:02 (213 bytes. #26735)

The Meta tags of setting "expire" and "no-cache" do work. I used that kind of method before, no matter using proxy or not. -sailor(Sailor); 2001.2.16 14:02 (#26746)

Dear Sailor, thanks for your response. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.16 15:56 (126 bytes. #26779)

I did meet the same problem as yours, ecommerce shopping site, and no back button..... -sailor(Sailor); 2001.2.16 16:05 (#26788)

My two cents -peterlf(fromZtoA); 2001.2.16 14:47 (260 bytes. #26756)

Thanks, Peter. Likewise, I guess you misundertood my issue. As the user cliks the "Back" button on the menubar of the browser, he/she see the cach in the browser. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.16 16:02 (#26785)

Try. Your requirement: Don't want to show the Page A again after the order has been placed. -old(HH); 2001.2.16 23:52 (411 bytes. #26861)

HH has saved me. Merci Beaucoup! -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.19 10:49 (#27219)

De Rein! (After visited 3 public libraries and looked through several huge dictionaries.) -old(HH); 2001.2.24 11:19 (#28338)

De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! :-) :-) ;-;-): -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.24 11:23 (#28339)

Sorry! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! De rien! ... Remember in my heart. -old(HH); 2001.2.24 11:42 (#28343)

十万火急，昨天我的F:在NT4.0环境下被格式化，请问如何在NT或WIN98 环境下unformat或恢复文件 -keqinfan(kevin); 2001.2.15 11:03 (225 bytes. #26477)

Hi ! jabber,how do you think the Jive on http://www.coolservlets.com? do you think it is a better way to learn JSP and J2EE to study the jive source code and if I master the source code do you think I can find a job in CA? -major(pine); 2001.2.15 08:11 (#26451)

Sure, it's a good idea. -dwarf(dwarf); 2001.2.15 08:25 (542 bytes. #26454)

Thank you very much. now I have been using weblogic 5.1 and have installed jive on it. I do not know which is better for me to use weblogic 5.1.0 or 6.0? -major(pine); 2001.2.15 22:54 (#26594)

I strongly encourage you to use Weblogic 6.0. The configuration of WebLogic 5.1 will be abandoned soon. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.16 11:46 (#26725)

Help! Who knows the nearest time of job fair in Ottawa? -liudong(Robin); 2001.2.13 21:03 (#26171)

〖精华〗 Is Java ugly or shining? --- From Chinasmile forum -jfhuang(Zigzag); 2001.2.13 03:53 (463 bytes. #25980)

I have ever read those artciles. It is really not important whether Java is ugly or not. -dwarf(dwarf); 2001.2.13 16:56 (394 bytes. #26102)

I have just read the first and the third after seeing your recommendation. I don't think It is a waste of time for me to read it. Thank you. -old(HH); 2001.2.17 00:55 (#26872)

As a Java programmer, I didn't get emotional after reading those articles. Actually, I read those articles before Zigzag recommended them. . -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.17 23:54 (435 bytes. #27014)

I didn't get emotional too. However I think those articles are worth reading for me. Thank you. -old(HH); 2001.2.18 10:52 (#27058)

请教：据说NT网络管理员的工作特难找，有四年经验的MSCE,CNA 行吗？ -decmaxn(Victor); 2001.2.11 01:31 (#25592)

1) Opportunities always exist; 2) how about your English and communication skills? 3) Do you know Unix system administraion? -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.11 16:09 (#25671)

agree. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.2.11 20:47 (#25694)

大家说得对，看来还是要加强自身修养。 -decmaxn(Victor); 2001.2.13 19:37 (#26133)

大家都在忙着准备win2000认证?可是盖茨5月要推出新版本windows XP了,嘿嘿,作了MCSE就等于上了微软的贼船,认证考试费大大地!~其实整个IT就是一条贼船,虽然赚的多,可花的也多,追得腿都细了. -aabb(爱吃水草的鱼); 2001.2.10 21:53 (328 bytes. #25572)

Fish, you are wrong: Instead of becoming thinner and thinner, your legs are becoming stronger and stronger because you have kept running. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.10 23:17 (#25576)

I agree, always following, but could not catch up with the New things. 555~~ -coffee(coffee); 2001.2.11 03:14 (#25598)

〖精华〗 Future of JAVA programming language....Microsoft or JAVA. Opened for discussion -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001.2.9 12:13 (3274 bytes. #25378)

As said: coding once, debugging evevrywhere. Many java applications, including Oracle tools, either cause memory leaking or application error when executed. -guest:Not crazy about Java; 2001.2.9 21:44 (#25451)

Thanks for your expert comments. Just one addendum -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.10 23:15 (283 bytes. #25575)

hi guys~~can anybody do me a favor? i am looking for a good computer class of oracle DBA in toronto. anybody has any ideas? -guest:flying fish; 2001.2.7 18:43 (#25037)

〖精华〗 A few words about Job Orientation: In response to Rollor, canada and wjiang -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.6 18:16 (2905 bytes. #24826)

Our company insists on developing our network menagement system with Java, from client side to server side -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.2.6 19:19 (#24832)

Dear Marco, do you use JINI? -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.7 09:05 (#24956)

No. We use SNMP and CORBA for Java -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.2.7 12:54 (#25000)

I am also working at a network management company with java and corba, could we keep contact? my email qm_as@yahoo.com -guest:mike; 2001.2.8 09:41 (#25191)

May I thank you in the name of all JAVA learners. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.2.6 22:56 (#24874)

Man, I'm scared. Please notice that English is not as strict as Chinese. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.7 17:00 (445 bytes. #24976)

Agree! -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.2.7 10:46 (#24985)

Thank you for your professional advice. I will forward your essey to my friends. -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.7 09:37 (#24965)

Jabber is such a kind guy that deserve the thanks of all of us. -guest:dolphin; 2001.2.7 10:48 (1336 bytes. #24986)

I agree, But I don't think there are plenty of opportunities for java junior and mediam developer now, think about the rapid production lines of the universities all over the world have been casting millions developers of java junior and midium. -northpolarbear(northpolarbear); 2001.2.9 04:06 (#25334)

To everyone who intend to change oneself into C/C++ programmer: Please remember what Jabber said: If you are a novice, it is too challenging to make a living on C++. -old(HH); 2001.2.11 10:46 (#25617)

I read this article from a placement agency's website. This is the second one I got on this issue from this agency. www.emergit.com -rosemary(kitty); 2001.2.6 00:06 (4872 bytes. #24678)

最新马路消息：具多伦多刚刚下岗的JAVA朋友说，几个星期来，JAVA PROGRAMMER就业市场严重萎缩，JAVA 工作极其难找。大家纷纷转往C++和DATABASE等。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.5 10:31 (#24551)

现在是IT全面萎缩，原因明摆着 -guest:美国经济在走下坡路; 2001.2.5 11:21 (#24565)

" IT Starting Salaries to Increase 8.4 Percent in 2001" -guest:RHIC; 2001.2.28 10:47 (335 bytes. #29198)

That is only a study, not the real thing -guest:guest; 2001.2.28 10:55 (#29200)

One of my friends didn't go to work today. You see why? -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.5 15:31 (205 bytes. #24591)

可是我在招聘广告上还是看到了很多JAVA的职位.怎么回事?难道真的有那么可怕? -canada(canada); 2001.2.5 21:06 (#24627)

主要还是供求关系 -guest:你看到多少？; 2001.2.5 21:34 (#24635)

挺多的.你可以自己找找看 -canada(canada); 2001.2.5 21:43 (#24636)

网址 -guest:？; 2001.2.5 22:02 (#24642)

http://www.workopolis.com/ search "java" -canada(canada); 2001.2.6 16:06 (#24808)

很多是AGENT，反复登为自己作广告 -guest:不能说明问题; 2001.2.6 16:35 (#24818)

Java won't die within a few weeks. Actually, more Java jobs will come about. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.6 08:27 (#24739)

Jabber, can you explain it a little bit? -canada(canada); 2001.2.6 10:07 (#24758)

Jabber, could you please open a new posting to tell us more about the current JAVA market. I think you are the expert and the readers are all very keen to know more about it. Thank you. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.2.6 16:53 (#24819)

在多伦多，平面设计或网页制作是否好找工作？微软、Adobe、Macromedia哪个公司的认证证书最畅销？谢谢！ -guest:field; 2001.2.5 21:15 (#24630)

field,have u gotten lp? -benbenn(benbenn); 2001.2.5 23:55 (#24673)

Yes. -guest:field; 2001.2.6 01:30 (#24696)

when?is it by DHL? -benbenn(benbenn); 2001.2.7 03:47 (#24934)

Certificates can help, but interviews are indispensible. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.6 08:24 (#24738)

给大家鼓鼓士气。今天刚找到UNIX Administrator工作。从interview到签offer, 一天搞定。关键一点，无论什么技术，只要精通一种，工作没问题。只是时间问题。坚持就是胜利！ -www(www); 2001.2.7 01:45 (#24907)

热烈祝贺。早点睡觉，攒着劲上班露一手。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001.2.7 09:04 (#24955)

我特支持和欣赏你的观点:关键一点，无论什么技术，只要精通一种，工作没问题。只是时间问题。坚持就是胜利！ -bloor(bloor); 2001.2.7 10:16 (#24973)

hoe about sales in Canada? -gongtian(roy); 2001.3.22 06:57 (#35863)

Tons of congratulations! This is the way to survive in the IT market: Well -oriented and being an expert in one or two specific directions. -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.7 10:25 (#24977)

Need suggestion -ginger(ginger); 2001.3.9 11:23 (90 bytes. #31741)

sun solaris is currently the most popular flavor of unix in the market, ibm aix is also widely used in Canada. -guest:guest; 2001.3.9 11:36 (222 bytes. #31744)

That is the key. You should just be a expert in one part and keep on searching, you'll succeed at last. Good luck to every one. -antking(little ant); 2001.3.9 17:10 (#31827)

"A Long-Term Solution to the IT Skills Shortage" -guest:RHIC; 2001.2.28 10:51 (257 bytes. #29199)

"Java Loosens Wireless Market" -guest:Industry observers; 2001.3.6 10:41 (284 bytes. #30712)

Hi,Jabber,If you also worry about unemployment in CA and delay your arrive,I think I should delay my landing.Do you also think so? -zlx(steven); 2001.2.4 20:47 (851 bytes. #24409)

Everybody's direct experiences are limited -jabber(jabber); 2001.2.5 09:00 (1112 bytes. #24522)

Thanks for your suggestion! -zlx(steven); 2001.2.6 03:07 (360 bytes. #24709)

向各位前辈请教：数年电信工作经验+CCNP,怎样找工？是否需要转向编程？ -guest:cute; 2001.1.31 06:50 (713 bytes. #23480)

give me your resume, I am sure I can find you a job -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.1.31 09:32 (#23500)

向各位前辈请教,两年系统集成工作经验+CCNP在北京一年软件开发经验在东京。出到加拿大，一头雾水。该干点甚麽，如何找工？？请指教。也希望CCNP,CCIE们互通有无。我的地址 zhouyulm@hotmail.com -guest:joyday; 2001.3.5 06:32 (16 bytes. #30333)

edwardjiang@hotmail.com -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.3.5 09:58 (#30364)

jabber, can you tell me if the SCJP is useful in finding job in canada? -redriver(redriver); 2001.1.30 21:31 (#23423)

jabber is in chating room now .快来吧 -gshgxc(my cat); 2001.1.30 21:37 (#23424)

Sorry, I quitted from chat room very soon because of my browser problem. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.31 14:11 (#23494)

It helps. It is a credit. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.31 09:12 (337 bytes. #23493)

thanks, jabber. -redriver(redriver); 2001.1.31 20:19 (#23627)

Many Chinese guys in Nortel were layoff these days. -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.1.28 20:40 (#23171)

My friend just join the Nortel this month. If you can not improve yourself, you will lose your job no matter where you work. cheerup! -guest:Guest; 2001.1.29 20:15 (#23258)

反正一个原则就是：这里是资本主义社会，讲的是公平交易。移民卖的是智力+语言+适应市场的技能。幸运儿没真本事迟早也是要混不下去的 -guest:; 2001.1.29 21:38 (#23261)

我的一个朋友原来是搞化工的现在在一家不大的电脑公司，前一段公司LAYOFF一批人把一个巴基斯坦的数学硕士+多大CS学士给LAYOFF，却给他加薪 -guest:搞电脑不好混; 2001.1.29 22:34 (156 bytes. #23263)

A few words about CS degrees -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.30 09:37 (804 bytes. #23332)

Right. You won't buy anything you don't need, especially when you don't have much money. The same rule applies to the job market. If the employer doesn't need your labour, he won't buy it anymore, then you get lay-off. -guest:; 2001.1.29 23:04 (#23270)

未必是坏消息。我的一个朋友是其中之一，北电补偿了他四个月的工资。 -northyork(North York); 2001.1.29 23:33 (#23274)

In Was. DC area, the employer usually gives 2-week salary. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.30 09:20 (200 bytes. #23329)

But not in Nortel. -bills(Bill); 2001.2.1 20:00 (#23803)

Please give me some advice about Notebook computer -diao_david(David Diao); 2001.1.27 21:47 (574 bytes. #23116)

DON'T BUY until you contact Ivey's IT Support!!! ******* URGENT!!! ******* -wjiang(wjiang); 2001.1.28 12:02 (425 bytes. #23158)

Thanks a lot. It's not in a hurry. Maybe I will buy it in June. At that time, PC market must have changed. -diao_david(David Diao); 2001.1.28 17:55 (#23168)

How to learn Java -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.1.24 23:27 (608 bytes. #22926)

Oh, Macro, your prescription is so overwhelming! -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.25 09:39 (#22945)

Hi guys,In windows track, Is VB more productive than VC++?Is there any advantage in VC++ comparing with VB? -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.1.24 08:26 (#22884)

It seems to me that VB is like pop music while VC++ sounds classic music. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.25 09:44 (337 bytes. #22947)

Classic like jazz not Mozart -ztech(ztech); 2001.1.27 00:09 (#23042)

jabber, when will you come to Canata? -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.1.23 22:04 (#22865)

I have to postpone my relocation... -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.24 08:33 (336 bytes. #22886)

I wish all of the friends in this forum a very, very happy Chinese lunar New Year! -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.22 10:44 (#22772)

how much does a notebook (PIII700/128M/10G/FD/24XCDROM/14.1 XGA TFT)cost in canada? -yfy_ca(yfy); 2001.1.21 08:07 (26 bytes. #22689)

cheaper than in China by all means. check www.futureshop.ca by yourself. -guest:; 2001.1.21 12:10 (#22703)

Hi,Jabber: Can you tell me what position your friend who was just laid off was?what Job do you think is more hot now,Java programmer or C++ programmer?Any response is fully appreciate. -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.1.19 12:00 (#22460)

Of course, Java is hotter. There are few opportunities for C++ novices. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.19 14:30 (#22471)

Why do you think there are more opportunity for java novice? The positions for java in the ads are mostly senior and intermediate,just like C++ positions. -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.1.19 17:07 (#22508)

Because C++ has been there for some years... -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.19 17:25 (315 bytes. #22509)

〖精华〗 One of my friends got laid off yesterday -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.18 16:58 (1776 bytes. #22282)

Bad climate is coming! But no such news comes out from my company so far. IBM just announced a good quarterly report yesterday. -eglington(_); 2001.1.18 17:16 (#22283)

Indeed, if somebody can get 3-4 IBM certificates on Visual Age for Java, Webpshere, XML, ...., he/she will have a good luck at IBM. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.19 09:00 (#22435)

[90%] of Chinese guys in his company were laid off? how about the whites and indian employees in this laying off? -ely(Ely); 2001.1.18 17:20 (#22284)

There is a known rule in Silicon Valley: If a programmer is asked to leave, he must be a Chinese, and if a programmer is hired, he must be an Indian. -guest:nosense; 2001.1.19 00:46 (#22406)

Could you tell me why??? -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.19 06:53 (#22427)

More Info... -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.19 08:50 (614 bytes. #22433)

Believe me Jabber, it's just a start. Take care and good luck to you. -hearts(hearts); 2001.1.18 19:47 (#22296)

Thank you so much. In such a terrible weather, I got a $10K salary increment a few days ago. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.19 08:56 (198 bytes. #22434)

搞不清招聘中“1st，2nd，3rd level support， root cause and trend analyst"是什么意思？thanks a lot! -www(www); 2001.1.18 13:28 (#22272)

〖精华〗 ask for suggestion for fundamental computer reading meterials. -ely(Ely); 2001.1.16 17:50 (846 bytes. #21934)

Data Structure is good and helpful even the book is old. By reading that book maybe you also get some sense of C or Pascal. Anyway they're easy to understand. -kiwi(kiwi); 2001.1.16 21:43 (#21955)

thank you so much kiwi..I know i should find it in books by myself, but would u pls explain briefly that how the knowledge of data structure helps programming? -ely(Ely); 2001.1.16 22:18 (#21960)

They're all very basic concepts... -kiwi(kiwi); 2001.1.16 22:38 (340 bytes. #21961)

I suggest you play more on the web server and database server. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.17 09:46 (684 bytes. #22056)

but at school we only have prevlige to wok on client side. -ely(Ely); 2001.1.17 11:34 (#22072)

If you want to do server-side programming, be sure set up your own machine at home. Now computer is not too expensive. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.17 17:19 (#22095)

following your suggestion... -ely(Ely); 2001.1.17 23:39 (1029 bytes. #22179)

Unfortunately, I am no hands at handling machines... -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.18 16:25 (#22234)

hehe, jabber is a consultant only provides suggestion without solution-smile.... -ely(Ely); 2001.1.18 09:28 (#22242)

because NT only for 8G maximum, as far as i know, not sure, you should check. -ping(Laser); 2001.1.20 00:46 (#22579)

Thanks everyone. Now I work in a 3G project and programe with C++ under Unix. Is it strong enough? I 'll leave BJ in Feb. -liudong(Robin); 2001.1.15 23:13 (#21825)

Dear Robin, it is hard to judge whether you are strong or not -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.16 08:50 (1543 bytes. #21875)

Recommend again: computerboos.address.com! Good site! I know it is built by a friend of jabber. -marcow(UserMarco); 2001.1.15 20:43 (#21787)

It is http://computerbooks.address.com/ -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.17 09:17 (#22049)

〖精华〗 This is an article forwarded by my colleague -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 16:36 (5929 bytes. #21762)

中国程序员身怀绝技走四方，可要好好干啊。 -ely(Ely); 2001.1.15 22:23 (746 bytes. #21814)

他们曾经殖民掠夺.我们落后了.我们现在在人家制定的世界秩序中追赶,不容易,但蒙也不是办法.要赶上必努力. -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.16 01:03 (#21841)

come on, Chinese 殖民掠夺 in earlier years too, if you ever learned Chinese History. If you don't 殖民掠夺, you are 殖民掠夺ed(落后). hehe. -guest:; 2001.1.16 17:09 (#21933)

哪辈子的事?请讲讲. -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.18 18:53 (#22288)

美国中学课本上写到- -ely(Ely); 2001.1.18 19:06 (26 bytes. #22289)

他们可真有趣. -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.18 20:51 (#22315)

China couldn't keep Mongolia and many places in Russia and Eastern Europe(听说过隋唐，匈奴或者元朝没有？)，Korea, and Vietnam, all became our colonies long before Spain, Portugal, and Britain found America. -guest:; 2001.1.18 21:43 (#22325)

他们怎么就不想想? Where have all the Indians gone? -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.18 20:53 (#22316)

check your high school history textbook. -guest:; 2001.1.18 21:38 (#22322)

What we did in the history is totally different. -gang2canada(Gang); 2001.1.18 22:40 (#22348)

you mean we were not capable to keep huge influence on other nations? hehe. -guest:; 2001.1.18 23:40 (#22382)

I am wondering how dare we Chinese still have chauvinist pride, or prejudice? We're just too far behind. -guest:; 2001.1.18 23:39 (#22381)

对文章提到的观点深有同感。我们天天开会讨论，写文档，审批文档，编程的时间不多 -eglington(_); 2001.1.15 22:25 (#21815)

Do you work according to the SEI CMM ? -liudong(Robin); 2001.1.15 23:19 (#21826)

Sorry, I have no idea about SEI CMM (MMs, I like them!). We use CMVC for source code control, and all of our development process comply with ISO9000. -eglington(_); 2001.1.16 12:42 (#21914)

are you talking about your current company? guess not. -guest:; 2001.1.18 23:45 (#22383)

闲扯 -ely(Ely); 2001.1.15 22:34 (748 bytes. #21818)

Hi,Jabber,Experts:Can you tell me what questions will be asked in the second interview for a intermediate VC++ programmer?The first interview was a test. Thanks a million! -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.1.15 11:44 (#21742)

Sorry, I am not an expert... -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 12:34 (330 bytes. #21745)

我听说OTTAWA许多公司不招人了，是真的吗？？ -liudong(Robin); 2001.1.15 03:34 (#21703)

Almost true. But you still have chances if you are strong enough. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 09:14 (#21726)

Not exactly. Nortel, CISCO and other are still hiring new employees while they layoff.. To our Nortel, it will keep the 2000 headcount in Y2001. It means how many been laidoff and retired, how many new one will be recruited in 2001 -bills(Bill); 2001.1.15 14:32 (#21753)

I just asked to sign a contract with Nortel, regarding to a new CDMA project. -juliancanery(julian); 2001.1.15 17:09 (#21773)

Congratulations! enjoy! -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 17:32 (#21777)

Yeah. That the real situation in Nortel now. -bills(Bill); 2001.1.15 21:29 (#21806)

What Nortel always hires contract employee, i think it happens in most cases? -yoke(yoke); 2001.1.15 23:12 (#21824)

Where could I find some English C++ BOOK?I need to read some English books before I begin my job hunting . -wendywendy(wind); 2001.1.14 21:55 (#21664)

You can download "Thinking in C++" from http://www.bruceeckel.com/DownloadSites/ -steven_huang(challenger); 2001.1.14 23:05 (#21676)

thanks -wendywendy(wind); 2001.1.15 20:15 (#21788)

about c++ books -guest:; 2001.1.15 16:55 (10043 bytes. #21770)

Thanks.It's s useful -wendywendy(wind); 2001.1.15 20:16 (#21789)

〖精华〗 Words from Nortel -guest:; 2001.1.14 17:31 (1967 bytes. #21642)

I am not sure whether this message is a fake or not. But it won't be a surprise if it is the fact. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 10:20 (#21737)

Yes. It is true. Actually it is a copy of the email that everyone in Nortel received. -bills(Bill); 2001.1.15 14:23 (#21752)

hope to find a programmer job in Toronto. Are there any good websites for job search? thanks. -ggwd(Victor); 2001.1.13 01:38 (#21503)

www.workopolis.com is one. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 09:37 (#21729)

1,What's big difference between C++ and Java? 2, What are the three basic concepts of OOP? 3, a system variable in SQL Stored procedure can be used to check if the SQL code executed right or not? Thanks -ggwd(Victor); 2001.1.13 01:26 (#21497)

why don't read some books or search on line before asking such a general and trivial question to waste your precious time? -guest:; 2001.1.13 11:08 (#21538)

do you really need a gunner of interview ?ha ha -guest:guild; 2001.1.13 11:12 (#21541)

Dear Victor, I suggest get answers from the books, too! -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 10:18 (#21736)

Hi,Experts,Can you tell me what is "mission critical"? what is "real time system"?TIA -deepyellow(DeepYellow); 2001.1.9 07:47 (#20964)

Just some buzz words -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.9 08:32 (205 bytes. #20967)

Arguing about Real Time systems -jfhuang(Zigzag); 2001.1.9 19:43 (818 bytes. #21009)

agree! -yfy_ca(yfy); 2001.1.9 20:56 (#21015)

ZigZag, you are right! My posting was too casual. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.10 08:56 (#21098)

Just one addendum: Java is not a real-time system. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 09:13 (#21725)

Two of the most popular RealTime OS now are: pSos/pSos+, and VxWork. They are widely uesd in Telecommunication System -bills(Bill); 2001.1.15 14:36 (#21754)

By the way, Windows NT 4.0 does not meet all the requirements of real time system. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.15 16:34 (#21761)

Even UNIX is NOT real Real-time OS. When we talk about Realtime OS, is always mean embaded-realTime OS, such as pSoS, vxWork. -bills(Bill); 2001.1.15 21:27 (#21804)

One more addendum, real time system is specified by POSIX 1003.1b. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.16 08:55 (#21876)

I just wonder, how big the pSoS, vxWork. I think the embedded software couldn't too large. And is vxWork a Unix like system? -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2001.1.16 10:00 (#21885)

Of course vxWORK and pSOS is very small as the most popupar embaded OS in the world. VxWork & pSOS are totally diffirect with Unix. Now almost all telecommunication Equipment use pSOS/pSOS+ or vxWORK. -bills(Bill); 2001.1.16 10:08 (#21887)

Dear Jabber,real-time systems can run on a lot of OS, sometimes even don't need a OS. -guest:Dolphin; 2001.1.16 10:17 (1253 bytes. #21889)

Hi, bill,I have a question that in a real-time application, is progrmmer's duty to assign priority and schedule tasks at application level, or it could be taken care by RTOS.? thanks. -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2001.1.16 22:59 (#21966)

Yeah. U should do it! -bills(Bill); 2001.1.17 09:14 (#22048)

For Your Reference -guest:Dolphin; 2001.1.16 08:25 (715 bytes. #21873)

Dolphin, thank you for your comments. -jabber(jabber); 2001.1.16 08:56 (#21877)